WTF???? Clinton ask Fla Meek to quit Fla race

What the Fuck? I seem that Clinton wants Crist to win.....

it may be the only way!!!

evil triangulation, or strategic voting? Or is it one thing when Clinton does it and another if you do?

I voted for Meek because of his support for Hillary Clinton long after it became politically expedient not to do so. I thought that loyalty deserved to be reciprocated. However I would have voted for the devil himself to stop Rubio. I just didn't think Crist had a chance so I voted my conscience.

Rumor has it that Democratic control of the Senate hangs in the balance and Crist with caucus with the Democrats.

I think it's too late but they have a lot more information than me.

however, I am so proud of Hillary and Bill for how they have fought for this administration.

But in this case, anything we need to do in order to stop Rubio is justified in my opinion.

who have also done it. Will it be enough, maybe not, but this is ONE race I want Rubio to LOSE!

.... Meek never had a chance ... and I'd be a coward to wait to say it until after the election. The only way Rubio loses at this point is for Dems to vote for Crist. I'd take a DINO over a Teabagger any day.

He is a very recent Republican and he has not even said he'd caucus with the Democrats, much less call himself one. Crist is not a Democrat and he said that Palin was more qualified to be President than Obama. Do you strongly disagree with that? You'd vote for that? Around here, an arched eyebrow at the President gets a person slammed, yet you would actually vote for a man who said Obama was less than Palin? Be that as it may, calling him a DINO is false.

I think that's the main point. Nobody in the Democratic party WANTS to vote for Crist. Of course he's not any kind of Democrat. But if the only option is between him and Rubio, then what? Strategic voting is employed in every multi party country in the world. It ain't pretty, but its about minimizing the damage.

no one will remember him in 2018, cuz he will lose in 2016.

He's Jebby "golden egg" and his stepping stone to getting him closer to running for POTUS! Jebby screwed Crist quite some time ago, and then brought Rubio on board. This is calculation at it's finest. I so wish you were right about the "ONE-TERMER" statement, but WHY let him even get that ONE TERM!

Given the underhanded way Repukes work, RUBIO will have the FULL support of Repukes the next time around. And if people don't know by now how THEY work, then THEY aren't paying attention!

... which is STILL better than a teabagger.

Plus, he has shown a willingness to work with the administration and has been advertising as much lately, something we KNOW Rubio would not do.

than Rubio. At least Crist might caucus with the Dems. Meek doesn't have a chance.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/44337.html

Bill is trying to help Dems generally. I don't know why anyone would actually think he is doing anything other then trying to help Dems keep control of Congress. He's been campaigning his ass off. I'm sure Crist would caucus with the Dems.

The former president’s top aide, Doug Band, initially served as the intermediary between Meek and Crist, and Clinton became involved only when Meek signaled that he would seriously consider the option, Clinton spokesman Matt McKenna confirmed to POLITICO.



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I don't think it is a surprise or demonstrates anything bad about Bill or Kendrick.

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Crist to defeat Rubio and took a lot of grief for it here.

Not sure if this helps or hurts anymore. Might help Crist but could hurt Sink.

The dynamics were known for weeks - the point this could have done would have been before or near the very beginning of the early voting. It also should have been done (if BC wanted to do it) PRIVATELY. Then it would be Meeks' and just Meeks' decision.

Given that this is Politico - I smell a rat. Now, what could their motive be? It is likely NOT possible to get enough Meeks' voters to not vote for him - as he will remain on the ballot. (See the republican problem with Hoffman still getting people saying they are for him though he pulled out in a NY congressional race.) So, what could it impact? The governor's race. Sink, like any Democrat, needs a good showing of the Black community. How better to alienate them than for Bill Clinton, who has been the strongest person own there for Meeks to be seen as behind a whisper campaign for Meeks to get out.

It would not make sense for BC to have spent the huge amount of time for Meeks that he has only to go behind his back and push for him to get out. If Bill were simply facing facts and saw that as the only hope, a private conversation with Meeks - with no hint to the media - would allow Meeks, if he chose, to make the decision, speak to his backers and be seen as someone in control of his own race.

heading and decided that a Lieberman-esque Crist and guaranteed control of the Senate would be a better than Rubio and a possible rethug controlled senate.

Crist probably used all of that as leverage and made some quiet promises to Clinton and the White House. They attempted to talk Meek into dropping out, but Meek is better than that and said no.

The fact that we were talking about this scenario on this board over a month ago means you know for a fact national dems were also drawing up a decision tree and trying to figure out what to offer to whom and when. Apparently Meek didn't make the cut and was asked to take one for the team.

A lot of people were holding back from early voting as a precaution anyway

Rubio is one of their poster boys. He needs to go down.

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I figured Meeks would drop out and throw his support to Crist by this weekend.

JFTR - both Gore and Clinton have campaigned for Kendrick.

For once I agree with Clinton.

Bill Clinton campaigns with Meek in St. Pete

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/19/1880831/clinton-campaigns-with-meek-in.html

instead of supposition. Sorry, maybe I should have. I'll shut up now. :D

This is from Politico, after all... I need to read the whole thing... I'm betting there's a twist and a turn in there somewhere, or a misquote... something doesn't add up that's for sure! It's been a scant week since Bill stumped for him.

Huh... I was just going back to read... very odd.

I will vote Crist no chose. Because I don't want Tea Party win. But I feel bad for Meek that he works very hard and Clinton ask him to quit in 5 days before election !!

What a car wreck. This reminds me of an I-95 or I-4 pileup.

long ago. Yes, IT IS too bad that it's now 5 days before, but it should have been done last month at the very least.

Sorry if others don't understand. I don't think Crist could even say he would caucus with Democrats, my God he already stood up to Repukes here and that took a lot of guts. Do I like having to make this choice, not at all... but if Rubio "can" be stopped is really what it's all about now!

And as one who campaigned against Crist for Governor, he HAS governed more moderately than some "blue dogs" now in Congress.

I was just coming back to read it more thoroughly... wtf?

I said, "WFT....."

Report: Clinton urged Meek to drop Senate bid

October 28, 2010





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There were reports earlier this week that Crist and Meek had had a meeting, but both camps have been tight-lipped about it.


Situation very fluid.

David Gergen?

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Bet that

But poor Meeks just does not have it. His mind might be fine but he does not come accross as a pro. There should have been immense pressure put on him long ago to quit. Rubio is dangerous because he can be groomed to be president and take a large chunk of latino vote. I mean he IS George Bush III. ..... By that time, I think the average latino voter will be much better informed for a variety of reasons. But progressives should not take any chances. This bud needs to be nipped at all cost. Sorry. It's a fact

and those Latinos vote along ethnic lines, like one huge single Latino? Rubio could not be elected to anything outside of Florida. He's smarmy. This idea that Latinos, who vote mostly Democratic, would vote for this guy because he's Cuban, is insulting if you ask me.

Black people vote strategically to keep Republicans out of power. I agree with you. It's like Republicans putting up Palin or O'Donnell in the hopes to lure Hillary voters. It's so insulting as a woman! We are thinking people.

as a way of forcing votes for anti equality employers of hate preachers. Voting Democratic is now fully optional for Democrats. Which is great, because now I do not have to vote for the religious nutter crowd out of 'loyalty' and 'Party building'. Those days are gone in a puff of Crist like smoke.

could win and would support a democratic agenda. Or the other option, is be idealistic and lose to Rubio who is a nutjob. Makes sense to me.

And yet the same crowd thumps a Bible and claims to be 'of faith'. It is sad watching Florida. Just sad, ever election cycle, sad, pitiful, sad, sad, sad.....

It's just not realistic to think that Meek can overcome the deficit he's facing. He's nowhere remotely close to the MOE.

I voted straight Dem ticket because I didn't have a situation like this in my state.

If I was a FL voter, I'd have made an exception in this case.

he has no chance and he is splitting the democratic vote. Preventing a conservative is very important.

I'm not buying this without a decent link.

Period

Sorry, folks. I have to agree witht he Big Dog on this one. Meek can't win... period. Best to do our damndest to keep the teabagger out of there.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021117-503544.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021117-503544.html

It isn't something that is currently being discussed.

Early voting is well underway down here so having a candidate drop out at this point would be a real mess.

Meek just doesn't have a realistic chance. And nothing good will come of letting any Teabagger in the door, especially in the Senate.

Dont' put it past them!

Why would Clinton help Meek and then ask him to step down?

Propaganda alert!

We need a Democratic governor a whole lot more than we need a Democrat in the Senate--if Crist would caucus with the Dems. If Republicans were to take the Senate, don't count on Charlie to caucus with the Dems.

I hope Clinton says something to answer this rumor.

Me thinks somebody leaked this, but to what end?

Why leak this garbage now? There is no way five days before an election would news like this leak. The corporate media would have us believe that a black Democratic candidate would be pressured to quit a race in favor of a white Republican? If you believe this nonsense, I've got some prime land to sell you.

So if he dropped out we would prevent another Tea party luny from coming to DC AND have a moderate senator who could help Obama in 2012 in a KEY state. It's a good idea if Meek dropped out but now unless Crist covers an 8 point deficit the seat is going tea party for the next 6 years!

lets say Meek drop out, what happens to AA turnout? It will be raining here in here on Nov 2. Alex Sink needs every vote to beat the scam artist Scott.

BTW, Meek is going to get at least 10% of votes no matter what (yes, there are lots of straight party voters and early voting already has began). I have a hard time to believe Rubio is going to have less votes than Scott, who will probably get 46-51%. You do the math.

People obviously don't want progressives in office to help Obama and move the agenda to the left. Rather they'll take the right. Crist doesn't care about the people, he cares about his office seat, power, and control. But Floridians are willing to toss out the progressive for the greedy. Whatever...