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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 04:59 AM
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Voters have spoken: Democratic-In-Name-Only "Centrism" sucks!
And our Democratic leaders will hear only that they have to move more to the right. I want a new Party.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:03 AM
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1. real Democrats, please
that would be nice
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:15 AM
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3. In office or posting here? (nt)
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:53 AM
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10. I do sometimes wonder whether or not you're a real Democrat
so yes, you do have a point
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 12:52 AM
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9. dup
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 12:52 AM by Skittles
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 09:30 AM
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11. You have a test or maybe a list of what a "real" Democrat can or
can't believe?

So what is the litmus test you would apply to a person who identifies themselves as a Democrat!
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:05 AM
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2. The only way to Shift the Country back to True Left (or even True Center) is...
a massive catastrophe such as a true Great Depression, massive radiation fallout from a Nuclear explosion (by accident -- think Chernobl), etc... It needs ot be at such a large scale that it not only affects the poor but the very rich too...because when the rich are affected then it is only then congress will do something to solve it.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:17 AM
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4. I agree - I expect a significant shift to the right over the next couple of years
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:28 AM
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5. the voting in of 60+ new republicans is a sign
that America wants more liberal democrats?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:39 AM
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7. I am going to try and ignore these threads
its such a waste of time. I am so fucking sick of the efforts to spin every fucking thing as the Dems are too centrist.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:35 AM
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6. They wanted more liberals, so they elected right wing Republicans?
Yeah, that makes sense.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:48 AM
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8. Things did get done. Yet somehow, we did a bad job of communicating
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 05:49 AM by mvd
our accomplishments. I think people like progressive issues when asked about in ways that they aren't brainwashed against. I know most conservative districts won't send super-duper lefties, but yes, there aren't enough progressives for the amount of Dems in Congress. If the Repukes won't compromise, we shouldn't, either.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:01 AM
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12. Not sure how you can square Feingold's & Grayson's defeats with that.
Generally, those who ran away from President Obama lost. Those in tight races who didn't, like Reid and Boxer, beat the odds. There's a lesson in that for 2012.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:05 AM
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14. Exactly. But they make it like Obama failed the Dems.
the DEms failed themselves.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:04 AM
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13. I don't know what you're talking about. But that definitely is not what's going on.
You think people love the LEFT in states like Florida, Michigan, South Carolina, Texas...? You guys would be delusional.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:18 AM
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15. Guess that's why Feingold and Grayson lost nt
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Yeshuah Ben Joseph Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:26 AM
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16. Feingold and Grayson lost
because the DLC client agencies DSCC and DCCC refused to support them while their Repuke opponents (a fucking PEDOPHILE in Feingold's case) got whatever they wanted from the Repukes, Rove, the Chamber of Global Corporate Fascism Commerce, etc.

The DLC wanted Russ & Alan gone. Can't have any actual Democrats hanging around, showing them up for the failures they truly are.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:17 PM
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18. Total BS
and just a rationalization for the reasons why they lost.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 05:26 PM
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19. True , the main ones the republicans targeted
never stood a chance with the money that was thrown against them. This election, thank you very much Supreme Court of asses, the money the GOP threw out was obscene. I can't wait to see what they have to spend in 2012.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:31 PM
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21. Must be nice to have a boogey man to blame everything inconvenient on.
Sorry, but the narrative doesn't work. The DCCC and the DSCC are both functions of the DNC - the DLC has nothing to do with it. Get a fucking clue, will you?
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Yeshuah Ben Joseph Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:37 PM
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23. The DNC is also currently a client agency of the DLC
It was under Terry McUseless, and it is again under Tim Kaine.

The only actual Democrat to run the DNC in recent years was Howard Dean. And the DSCC/DCCC didn't listen to him at all, rather they openly defied him (Rahm & Schumer). So there goes that theory.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:52 PM
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24. Keep rolling with the conspiracy theories.
Hint: no one is out to get you.
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Yeshuah Ben Joseph Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:54 PM
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25. Nobody CAN get Me
But it's eerie how some of you sound just like the Pharisees who WERE out to get Me back in the day.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 11:29 AM
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17. I think Josh Marshall gets it just about right
It Proves I'm Right

I'm terribly surprised that everyone everywhere on the political spectrum (here and there) is using Tuesday's results as confirmation of the assumptions they've held all along.


http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/11/it_proves_im_right.php?ref=fpblg


You thought centrists were the problem before the election, and you think that's why Dems lost seats Tuesday. Others have completely different analyses, which are identical to the views they held before the elections.
There is no one narrative here. Surrender Dorothy.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:30 PM
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20. Then explain Feingold. (nt)
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:32 PM
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22. We lost 47% of blue dogs and 1% of progressives...
...according to Michael Moore, on with Lawrence O'Donnell last night.
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