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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:13 AM
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"Unemployment Is Too Damn High"
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 06:03 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Unless we fix this economy we will be in the same position on the first Wednesday in November of 2012 that we are now; lamenting the fact we lost a bunch of House seats, a bunch of governors seats, a bunch of senate seats, and a bunch of state legislatures. Except next time we will be lamenting the loss of the presidency.

As I said , ad infinitum and ad nauseum, the economy drives elections. Any governing party, be it a left, right, or center governing party, would have got waxed in this economic environment, whether they were responsible for it or not.

If the economy doesn't improve our only hope to hold the White House is to hope the Republicants nominate Sarah Palin but that doesn't seem likely after she screwed the pooch with her bat shit crazy picks of Christine O Donnell, Joe Miller, and Tom Tancredo.


on edit- And its time for me to resurrect my theory on why some folks didn't see this electoral massacre coming. Folks on the left and the right mostly talk to other folks on the left and the right and get their own views shouted back at them. Consequently they think "everybody" thinks like them.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:15 AM
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1. Rubio? Paul? - If we don't get that unemployment rate down, even palin could take the WH in 2012
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:22 AM
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2. Can't Speak To KY But I Think I Can Speak To FL
Marco Rubio is a worthy adversary. He was able to corral the support of the Tea Baggers while eschewing the rhetorical excesses other Tea Bag candidates made. He's telegenic, well spoken, and has a great life story. And did I mention he's Hispanic.

Last night demonstratrated that even the most vulnerable candidates could not be beaten if their opponents didn't reach a certain threshold of credibility, i.e. Joe Miller, Tom Tancredo, and Christine O'Donnell.

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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:29 AM
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3. my point was that palin did not totally fail - and I agree about rubio
he probably has his sights set higher - perhaps even the WH.

palin is too much of an opportunist to let a couple of duds keep her down - she will ride the coattails of the rubio/rand wins.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:42 AM
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4. I See Your Point
But even in the case of the most vulnerable candidate his or her opponent must reach a certain thresshold of credibilty.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:47 AM
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5. you know - that is an interesting point - but not sure I agree totally
If the economy does not improve - even palin will be a formidable candidate in 2012 even though she is far from credible.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 05:58 AM
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6. That's Scary
You suggested Sarah Palin deserves some credit for Marco Rubio's success. However, it was Jeb Bush who groomed him. Imagine that...
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:09 AM
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9. from just a few days ago
http://cbs4.com/campaign2010/Palin.headlines.rally.2.1977383.html

I do fear Jeb getting back into nat'l politics - and rubio might be his avenue.

If so - I have no doubt that palin will play a role.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:16 AM
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10. Jeb Said He Is Isn't Running. We'll See
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 07:20 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
It all depends on the economy. If it improves Obama will be reelected. If it doesn't he probably won't, and we will be spending the summer and fall of 2012 arguing about the "cell phone effect", the size of crowds, and other extraneous matters.

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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:19 AM
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11. you got it
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:29 AM
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7. "It's the economy stupid" -
it was true when Clinton was president, and it's true now. Aside from the partisans, moderates are swinging back and forth because the economy sucks. At some point they'll realize electoral politics is for the rich (not them) and then we'll see if we can actually make some progress.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 06:57 AM
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8. Don't look to 2012 to be much better
Obama said it's not the governments place to create jobs.

zalinda
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 11:16 AM
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13. Well, Somebody Needs To Create Them
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de novo Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:21 AM
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12. You are right on ever point. Had jobs been the Dems priority,
had they gotten unemployment under 7% or so, the rabid repukes would have no (or very little) appeal. The Dems dicked around on legislation that didn't create the jobs we needed. Now, we will all suffer for their misplaced priorities.
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