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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 10:06 AM Original message |
If the President of the United States calls for a meeting I would think |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. Is their rudeness surprising though? |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Not at all, but I'm so disappointed there are no harsh comebacks from Dems...n/t |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Yeah....I agree with that. |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
50. And therein lies the problem. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
4. Obama needs more wake up calls like this--he needs to stop accomodating them |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. back when it was Bush, I remember hearing people talking about those who disagreed with Bush ... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
6. You thoroughly blame him and not them? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I'm not sure that casting Obama as a "victim" is the image you should want to portray. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Victim of rudeness |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Well you just keep right on with that talking point. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. What is he supposed to do? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Have people complain about it on this website, what else? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Censuring them? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Censure seemed REAL important to DEMS when it was time to censure anti-Bush Liberals. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. It is Obama's fault what the Republicans do and what the Democrats in Congress do. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I know, can you believe, Republicans are rude and disrespectful |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Yes, I blame him for again, appearing weak and having no |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. So if someone is rude to me, I am the one who is weak? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. If you are the boss and you call a meeting... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Congresspersons are not the President's employees |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I changed it to read "people below his command". Any more semantics that we need to clear up? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Congress is not "below the President's command." |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. Yes- so silly of me to think that the Presidency is a higher office than congress. |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Ya Know, Sometimes There Are People Who Just Don't Get It. Let Me See, |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. If you don't assert yourself then yes. He's the POTUS for god' sake, |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. How is he to assert himself? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Yeah, that's right- I want Obama to be a bully. LOL! |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Leading the Congress? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Oh- I forgot- under new "far center" rules, the modern President has zero influence over congress. |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. I'm pretty sure the President made a few phone calls |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. And yet I'm told that the Executive branch has no potential influence over congress. n/t |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. I doubt that's what you are told exactly. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. I never suggested that the President should violate the constitution, n/t |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
7. Have the Secret Service do a full body cavity search on Boehner and McConnell the next time |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
14. Have any of ya'll ever taken a political science class? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. We heard all of this b/f the midterms. Keep on telling it. n/t |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. what about it is incorrect? |
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de novo (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. That it will result in successful elections. |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. worked pretty well in '08 |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Oh- you mean back when Pro PO liberals & anti-war moderates, etc. kicked ass for him. |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. for what it's worth, you are not talking to a centrist |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. You seem to get part of what I'm saying, and I see your points too. |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. I just do not look at his actions and see them as |
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Denzil_DC (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #58 |
92. Dave Neiwert agrees with you |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Errr, we lost the midterms by doing it your way. 'Member? n/t |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. I'm sorry I did not realize we employed the dave29 method |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. His post sounded like all the typical "far center" talking downs that I heard until our defeat. |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Respectfully, the "he is weak" talking point started well before he landed the Presidency |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. If you mean charges from DEMS-Is that charge still merely a talking point? |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. I am not claiming anything about your loyalty |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. That argument failed in '08- but the perception of "caving" and weakness existed in '10. |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. The perception exists |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. I never asked him to gnash his teeth, just to fight for and win votes. |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Honestly I don't see this as being a good soldier |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Fair enough. n/t |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #14 |
102. Exactly .... there are several reasons why Barack Obama is the most popular man in DC... |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
103. Remaining above the fray keeps the President popular with whom? n/t |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
28. Unrec and Pathetic |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Yes- Democrats should be fighting the Republicans who did this, not Obama. Any ideas? |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Unless there's a change in the Constitution, |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Wrong answer. Those congressmen can be censured, at the least. |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Censure? Really? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. DEMS advocated for the censure of Moveon and Congressmen Stark. Why not this? |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
75. Apparently... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. You mean like when DEMS attacked their own when they advocated censure for Rep. Stark & Moveon? |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Get it right... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Exactly- Conservative Democrats advocated for the censure of Liberals. |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. No excuse is needed |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. And yet so many excuses have been provided in this thread, just in case. |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Actually, you just fooled yourself |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. I was told all about how the Republicans were hurting themselves b/f the midterms too. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
30. Did the Repubs even say they were sorry they couldn't attend? |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
43. Obama gets no respect anywhere |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. If you want respect, you have to act like someone who expects it. nt |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. huh? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. You can laugh, but you should think it through... |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. I have thought it through, so many times, and I am not laughing. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Sorry you don't get it - and sorry he doesn't either. nt |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. I guess were just a bunch of sorry people |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. Just a little naive about dealing with disrespectful bullies. nt |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. When I was in 4th grade |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. You didn't learn the lesson if you think the prez doesn't have to do something... |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. if he wants to be respected.... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. By Republicans of course. :) |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
47. Yep, they're like disrespectful teenagers who are begging to be reigned in... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
55. The all powerful media will cover for them once again...... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. What are elected DEMS on TV saying they are going to do about it right now? Tonight? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Deny the media's role in all things political, |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Deny elected Democrat's role in bringing up things that concern Democrats, |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Personally, I don't think it matters what Dems say...... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. But you do think it matters whether the media says something or not? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I'm sorry, but negative threads about Dems and Obama |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. I'm bashing DEMS by constantly BEGGING Democrats to fight Republicans? If you say so. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. You believe that Dems are weak, and you would be right..... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. I just dont see how covering for DEMS who refuse to fight is helping anyone. n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. But I see how criticizing them all of the time |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. How does it help the oppositon if I BEG DEMS to FIGHT conservatives? |
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kiranon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
69. Cancel the meeting because of something else more important to the country. |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
70. They clearly don't respect him and this shows that they will do anything they can to spite him. |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
96. They view him as weak. |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
97. The Republicans are doing everything in their power... |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
100. So you think he thinks about trying to be loved by R's? NUTTY suggestion. |
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tledford (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
101. It doesn't apply if the President is black. |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
104. I think they did it to embarrass him, but I'm a little concerned by |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-10 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
105. I don't understand the surprise and outrage over this. |
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