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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 07:35 AM Original message |
-A Little Historical Perspective-In FDR's 1st year unemployment grew from 23.6% to 24.9% |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you for today's history reminder |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
2. The key difference is that FDR knew how to communicate |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. No. FDR had a Senate willing to toss his salad & did not have to deal with 24/7 political tabloidism |
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LawnLover (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. Are you saying Obama doesn't connect with voters? |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
3. and we are going into our 3rd year... |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
4. Ummm. Read your own article. In FDR's 2nd year, unemployment fell 3.2%, the 3rd 1.6%. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I didn't make this comparison, the OP did. And, do you have to get personal? |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
5. "Obama has mirrored the economic accomplishments of President Roosevelt" |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 08:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Is this the daily message from the WH press office? Run it up the flagpole, and see who salutes. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Dean, Grayson, Feingold and Weiner - and Dennis K. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 09:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Can you imagine what President Obama's fate would be if |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 09:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. *can you imagine* - just another deflection from the facts |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. See post 8 below |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. again, use of charts and tools to deflect the reality based world |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. It Took FDR,The Most Accomplished President Ever, Time to Undo Republican Economic "F" Up |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
7. Different situation |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
8. Here's a chart |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
14. The same people who lionize FDR now |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. nice crystal ball gazing |
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LawnLover (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 08:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Wow. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-10 02:31 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Why would you want |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Whaddya mean, crystal ball? |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
15. Nice try, but you're talking to the wall. Facts and history means to these people as much as |
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ampad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Maybe Huffington Post should write an article on it |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Ha! Yeah, they might try to actually post something that actually informs |
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Japanbest (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
17. Problem is, we are at the end of the second year |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
18. FDR made the depression palitable to people he spoke to the people and made them feel like he was |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
23. It's obvious FDR didn't man up. He was also an elitist corporate shill sell-out. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
25. But the Great Depression started in 1929 - 4 years before FDR took office. |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Excellent observation Nicholas, keep the facts coming, no matter how unpopular |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-10 02:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Agreed. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-10 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
33. More perspective - FDR's second term started with a major recession. |
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