Clinton: Make airport pat-downs be less intrusive

Clinton: Make airport pat-downs be less intrusive

(AP) – 53 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says officials should try to make the new airport security measures, including full body scans and intimate pat-downs, less intrusive.

Clinton says there's clearly a need for the tighter security. But she says the government should explore ways to "to limit the number of people who are going to be put through surveillance."

She says she understands "how offensive it must be" for some people to undergo the searches. She says there's a need to strike "the right balance" and to "get it better and less intrusive and more precise."

Would she submit to a pat-down? "Not if I could avoid it," Clinton says. "No. I mean, who would?"

She made the comments in interviews aired Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation" and NBC's "Meet the Press."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gZEMO1XVXEMPrL6kHcYq9D3R4how?docId=32b4798544e94b7f935a6f4f76114d34

my family don't have to, and will not volunteer to do so as an example to the nation, no freaking way!
If Obama favors this, he needs to have his whole family screened both ways on TV while he and the world watch. Then he goes.
A real leader would have gone first. Period.

Here it is, in quotes.



Yes, you are right again on the second point. Silly POTUS and his family always get off so easy. They never have to worry about security or their privacy or anything like that!

Because the gist of what he said is that he's already asking them if they really have to take things this far, they tell him yes, they go farther, he asks, they tell him yes...

And here we are.

Taking 10-20 x-rays of amputees and then asking them to explain to the clueless TSA agents what's in there.

http://amputeemommy.blogspot.com/2010/05/humiliation-and-now-im-angry.html

And Obama doesn't seem bothered by this, he really doesn't.

I canvassed the poorest and worst neighborhoods of Reno for this?

Read it yourself ...

and try not projecting cynicism and closed-minded biases onto every bit of new "news" about this President.

It's clear that people who have written him off are interpreting his words and actions however they need to align with their conclusions.

it's a start.

See his quote above.

Of course, the media spin is different. That's ok.

He said, tough shit America, we need this for safety because the TSA says it's the only way to prevent bombs in underpants.



So he has effectively deferred to the goons at the TSA. Obama has the power to change what the TSA is doing while Clinton does not.

Hillary said something a little differently after the fact of the President's statment so of course Obama, who made statement to the press, is evil and Hillary is so much more compassionate.

It's the same tired crap.

LISBON, Portugal (AP) -- President Barack Obama has asked security officials whether there's a less intrusive way to screen U.S. airline passengers than the pat-downs and body scans causing a holiday-season uproar.

For now, they've told him there isn't one, the president said Saturday in response to a question at the NATO summit in Lisbon.

SNIP

Obama said he's told the U.S. Transportation Security Administration: "You have to constantly refine and measure whether what we're doing is the only way to assure the American people's safety. And you also have to think through, are there ways of doing it that are less intrusive."

SNIP

Obama said that in weekly meetings with his counterterrorism team, "I'm constantly asking them whether is what we're doing absolutely necessary, have we thought it through, are there other ways of accomplishing it that meet the same objectives."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_OBAMA_AIRPORT_SECURITY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-11-20-18-39-45

The ultimate action coming from Obama's consideration of the issue is that people are continuing to be strip searched and/or groped to get on a plane under his watch.

If Bush was doing this shit people wouldn't be parsing his pretty, happy-feely words, they'd be looking at his actions.

when you never fly commercial.

of death. It may not be invasive though, you're right.

perhaps I'm mistaken and this was forced on him.

(and, btw, I support his approach to this - I think it's measured and rational. But I do have a problem with Obama-as-victim proclamations.)

I'm not for women who may be pregnant walking through radiation machines, or children or seniors for that matter.

I'm not for victims of sexual assault being forced to be publicly sexually assaulted. Which technically this is since they are forced under penalty of law to submit to fondling so are not engaging in the sexual act willingly.

I'm not for old men diddling little boys children in public. Kids need to know what inappropriate touch is and it is confusing when their parents seem to support people of authority diddling them. How are they suppose to know when it is not alright for teachers, priests, Cub masters to do it when their parents allowed some old fart to do it in public?

Both Obama and Clinton are correct, although Hillary said it much better. The TSA needs to find a better way. Americans need to get up off of their knees and stop accepting absolutely every piece of crap force fed to them in the name of security.

(BTW, your problem with Obama-as-victim proclamations is meaningless to the discussion.)

meaning that he understands there are issues and that the TSA needs to adapt and refine their procedures. I think what he said is measured and rational.

And re: the "Obama as victim" part, I was responding directly to the poster's remark above. I think it's a very weak argument.

with the TSA assuming everybody who wants to fly is a suicide bomber?

:thumbsup:

Didn't they say exactly the same thing?

Excerpt:

Clinton agreed with Obama that the TSA should work to make checks less invasive.

"I think everyone, including our security experts, are looking for ways to diminish the impact on the traveling public," Clinton told NBC's David Gregory.

"I mean obviously the vast, vast majority of people getting on these planes are law abiding citizens who are just trying to get from one place to another. But let's not kid ourselves. The terrorists are adaptable," she continued.

"Striking the right balance is what this is about. And I am absolutely confident that our security experts are gonna keep trying to get it better and less intrusive and more precise," Clinton said.

"Everybody is trying to do the right thing and I understand how difficult it is, and how offensive it must be for the people who are going through it."

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/would-clinton-submit-pat-down-not-if-i-could

I'd really like to know if that's true. I'm not sure it is.