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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:01 AM
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The Sorrow And The Self-Pity - Krugman
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 10:02 AM by Mass
I think he is once again spot on. Sure, there is a policy issue on which we can agree or disagree, but what was the point to attack the "left" with so much vigor while the attacks of the GOP were made with barely any passion in his voice. (now, I understand that some of the left wing criticism are too extreme in their rethoric, but how does attacking a whole block of people as "purist" help? Or is it just a tit for tat game? In this case, I would prefer to see him play it with the GOP?

I generally agree with Obama, but I really dislike this deal, and contrarily to others here, I am not ready to hide I find it very distateful. I can understand and even agree with the "best we can get" argument, but at least, I would like to feel the president is mad at the right, not just going through an intellectual exercise. I did not feel that.


http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/08/the-sorrow-and-the-self-pity-2/?src=twt&twt=NytimesKrugman


The Sorrow And The Self-Pity
There is a case for the tax cut deal, as the best of a very bad situation. But Obama did not help that case yesterday by lashing out at “purists”.

Leave aside the merits for a moment: what possible purpose does this kind of lashing out serve? Will activists be shamed into recovering their previous enthusiasm? Will Republicans stop their vicious attacks because Obama is lashing out to his left? It was pure self-indulgence; even if he feels aggrieved, he has to judge his words by their usefulness, not by his desire to vent. This isn’t about him.

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What’s particularly striking is that Obama seems passionate about denouncing his progressive critics, even as he has nice words for the people who have spent two years trying to destroy him.

So look: there’s a policy issue here, and it’s a tough one; you trade off the stimulus Obama extracted now for the increased likelihood that low taxes for the rich will be made permanent, crippling policy for decades to come. But there’s also a character issue: what we really don’t need right now is a president who blames everyone but himself, and seems more concerned with self-justification than with sustaining the alliances he needs.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:15 AM
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1. recommend
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wolfgirl Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:16 AM
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2. I think the President is
actually upset/mad at the Dems in Congress. They have failed over the past 2 years to stand up and fully support the President's agenda. I think it's all good & well to have differences of opinion, but it was the Dems in Congress that caved - not quite as much in the House, but certainly in the Senate.
I'd feel differently if I had seen real action by the Dems to call the GOP on the carpet for the obstruction & divisiveness they've practed over the past 2 years. Of course we've had some wonderful voices in the Congress (Franken, Sanders, Kucinich, Frank, Grayson) but we had a majority in both houses so why didn't they get the job done.
The President has power but cannot single-handedly propose, pass & sign legislation into law. Signing statements/executive orders are only good for the length of time the President is in office, so they are easily discarded so that is not an answer.
Yes, he can use the bully pulpit, but no matter what he says, the majority of the media, if they actually give full coverage, usually distorts the message.


Just an opinion/thought...
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:17 AM
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3. Kick & Rec! Right On!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:20 AM
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4. On this point
Let me add that Obama has never, as far as I can recall, pointed out that these horrible tax increases on the rich the GOP warns about would bring rates back to what they were under Bill Clinton — a time of enormous prosperity. But then, Obama has always had a weirdly hard time making the case that the Clinton economy refuted Reaganism.

Add in the White House’s repeated validations of the right-wing position on the evils of public spending, from the spending freeze to the pay freeze, the appointment of a conservative Democrat and a paleo-conservative Republican to head the debt commission, etc. — and now Obama expects trust and praise from progressives?


Obama has a lot in common with Clinton: Erskine Bowles was in the Clinton administration and Simpson also served on Clinton's entitlement reform commission.

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:22 AM
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5. I disagree with Krugman on this point, but continue to agree with him on the rest.
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 10:23 AM by Mass
I am sure we can find references to Clinton's tax rates in previous Obama's speeches, and there are many Clinton's veterans in the Obama White House.

This said, I cant remember (I would be happy to be proven wrong) Obama making references to "reaganomics" as a source of our current problems.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 11:12 AM
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6. Stockholm Syndrome. nt
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