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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:15 PM
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Let's Make a Deal.

President Obama's major and sudden flip flop on giving away hundreds of billions in tax breaks to the uber rich has been called a bad deal by some Democrats, me included.

So, in the interests of positive and progressive results to break the logjam, I've come up with an alternate deal, a better deal, a 'newer deal" that i would encourage congressional Democrats to consider and possibly to offer to their colleges across the aisle.


Let propose that Republicans legislatively support what they see as the Dems wish list in the compromise bill, in return for President Obama resigning from office.

Don't laugh. You may recall that the Repo congressional leader Mitch McConnal has said repeatedly that their number one objective is to get rid of Obama. I'm guessing that they would be willing to trade far more than they have already conceded if we would agree to have Obama resign and Joe Biden take over for until the next election.

We might even be able to get a public option passed like this.

i think we should see what we can get for Obama's resignation. It's for the good of the country. It would demonstrate leadership on shared pain and on taking responsibility to get things done.

It would be a compromise that I bet many Democrats could go for.


I know I could live with that. And I would be grateful to President Obama for his personal sacrifice.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:23 PM
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1. I'd like to have some of what you're smoking, please.
Must be strong.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:29 PM
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4. Not smoking anything, yet. I say, lets get a deal we like. I'd trade Obama
for a single payer health insurance system in a NY minute!

I mean, it's not about the personality, it's about the good of the country.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:36 PM
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6. "I mean, it's not about the personality, it's about the good of the country."
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 12:37 PM by ProSense
Is part of the deal that Republicans never win ever again?

What are the chances that Republicans will throw in that they get the WH and Congress?

What are the chances that they would repeal everything once they took control.

Some fantasies should never be made public.

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 01:18 PM
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7. if the historic swing in the house during the midterms are any indication, i'd say
that our President isn't helping keep Republicans out of power. i'd say that he is partially responsible for the size of the shellacking. And he's on a downhill course.

He is paying politically because many of the people who worked for him and voted for him are feeling betrayed by him. I know that first happened to me when he failed to invite a representative contingent of pro single payer experts to his Health Care Summit. He promised a debate, but instead we got managed news. I could care less that Obama didn't support single payer or a public option. What pissed me off is he's afraid to debate the facts with qualified experts who do support a single payer solution. he knows he would lose the debate, so he avoids the debate. Yet, he promised a debate. So I feel betrayed because I really did work so hard to get him elected.


Unfortunately, no matter how much someone tells you how you should feel, you pretty much feel the way you do. You seem to see Obama as a hero. At least that is how I've interpreted your ubiquitous championing and defense of Obama from any and all perceived criticism, accountability, or bad publicity.

I see Obama as just another politician. He's a liar and he will say whatever to get elected. I would hope that the good that he produces would outweigh the bad, but he's not above accountability, he's not above suspicion, and he's not above being voted oanut of office if he continues to exercise such poor political and moral judgment.

I mean, wasting billions on tax subsidies for billionaires is obscene while we have families living on the streets. So trading in Obama would be a far better deal for far more Americans than would be keeping him and going along with the bad deal he negotiated.

Unless of course you don't care that the loss of those billions of dollars to subsidize the wealthy could be keeping families off the streets and in suitable housing.

We don't have to pay that price when a simple and quick resignation could achieve the same thing in a heart beat. I think you, the President, and congress should consider it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 01:21 PM
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8. It was historic that Democrats kept the Senate.
Mid-term shifts are not unsual. President Obama isn't the first to see his party lose Congress.

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:08 PM
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9. Kick for the night crew
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:26 PM
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2. They might do that deal if both Obama AND Biden resign, and it's done after the new congress begins
Edited on Wed Dec-08-10 12:27 PM by andym
then Boehner is President. They just might do it.
Would you accept that compromise? I wouldn't
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:33 PM
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5. i think they would accept just for Obama. They could instantly
please and mollify their Tea Party constituents.


I wouldn't recommend cashing out the whole administration, just switching out Obama for Biden.


My bet is that they (Repos)would be willing to make some major concessions. They could claim to have delivered on their number one objective, after all.


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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 12:27 PM
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3. No Sale.
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