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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:30 PM Original message |
As of January 1, 2011........How might you personally be affected taxwise without a deal? |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Making Work Pay is eliminated |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. The SS 2% is supposed to make that up. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. The 2% reduction in FICA replaces it, although isn't as good for |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Thanks for your reply (nt) |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
56. MWP is a refundable credit. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Yep. The poorest Americans get a smaller refund check next year. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Your statement is devoid of numbers....... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Here are the numbers |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. The Make work pay tax credit |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. You're making excuses instead of working for a solution |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. It isn't about how I frame it, it is about what the possible scenarios are, |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. This particular tweak needs to be in it |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
62. The only people who end up paying more in taxes than last year are the lowest income |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Comparing apples to oranges can certainly make things be as you want to paint them..... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. They traded a refundable tax credit for a lesser payroll tax cut. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. My critters have heard from me....... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I'm saying it looks like this plan, or something close to it, is what we're going to get. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Well, I think we kind of agree....this compromise ain't the best, |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
69. If the cap was raised to $140,000 |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. I agree in the remedy of raising the SS cap, |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. The question should not be how we do as individuals... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. This is more for informational use...... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think I got $600 from the bush cuts then I guess it's $400 from Obama. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. You got more than $400 from Pres. Obama....because the tax tables |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #11 |
40. Withholding doesn't matter...it all comes out even at tax time. |
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young but wise (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
4. K&R |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. well let's see... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
10. Of course, in addition to taxes going up, |
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vikegirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
34. And the 99ers? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. What would you suggest? |
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vikegirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:46 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. How many of "them" are there? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 02:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. You are correct, the tax compromise doesn't help them....... |
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vikegirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 03:41 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. So does the president? |
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vikegirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 04:10 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. You don't care? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. Why....because I can't solve a problem that exists by typing here? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. Feeling more likely to not have my Social Security slashed? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Ok..... |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Why do you think Simpson and Bowles were picked |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:10 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Are those your facts and evidence for your one liner smears? |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Well, apparently understanding that Social Security is a "milk cow" was a qualification. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. What are the rules of the road for this commission? |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. And you're off on hyperbole. You know quite well where the rules are. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I'm asking you what they are. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:03 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Look them up. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:13 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. OK....Thanks! |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:34 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. It isn't an easy issue. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 02:47 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Democrats like you are the ones who don't mind seeing 98%'s tax rates go up |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:07 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. If anything the past 25 years of watching the show has shown me that blame is coming no matter what. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. Doing what's right for whom? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:07 AM Original message |
I'll assume that you choose not to answer that question |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:07 AM Original message |
I'll assume that you choose not to answer that question |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
50. I'll assume that you choose not to answer that question |
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KansasVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
16. -1 for more white house propaganda! |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. How's that? |
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Dr Morbius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. I appreciate it. Thanks. |
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bornskeptic (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
54. When folks on one side of a dispute label facts as propoganda |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
19. The bottom tax rate for those in the 10% tax bracket goes up to 15%, which is a 50% increase. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
20. ATR is Grover Norquist 's group |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Seems relevant, doesn't it? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Yep.....it is. Their plan is to allow the tax rates to go back to what they were |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. So if we surrender to them, what do you suppose will occupy that clock next. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Deleted message |
Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Yes, that's so totally it. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:06 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. You have yet to provide any facts...... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:49 AM Response to Reply #31 |
53. And some of yours we'll see again. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Doesn't change anything for those who will have to find more money to pay taxes..... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
32. It would have no effect on me, whatsoever. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:25 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Yep.........most folks that are being hit the hardest are in the 10% tax bracket! |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:37 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Keep the bottom bracket in place and make it up with a new top bracket |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:38 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. It's hard to make it to high office and stay connected to low roots. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 03:18 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Unfortunately, it does look like folks in this country are more about retribution |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 04:57 AM Response to Original message |
47. According to your table |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. The rate of increase may be 3%.....but when compared to what you were paying, |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
48. How does this get Neg'ed |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
49. Several tjhousand dollars |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. What I'm surprised about is that folks seem to have an awful lot to say about this argument..... |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
52. Personally I'm glad to pay more taxes to leave less debt to our kids ... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 09:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. I'm with you. I'm on the cusp of maximum penalty/minimum benefit. But being pro-tax in principle |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Democratic principle is more about caring for the lesser than thee, |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
79. Sometimes you talk waaaaaay too much. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:22 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Thanks! |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
66. that precious measly 35 cent raise I just got last month will be wiped out. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-10-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. let's just say, it won't be pretty....... |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #71 |
82. oh yes, I'm very aware of how lucky I am |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Don't feel guilty.....cause at least you understand clearly |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
83. Between the tax hike and loss of deductions 5-8k |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
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pettypace (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
85. Obama '08 |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
86. Personally, I'd rather see my own taxes go up that little bit |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
87. +1000 |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
89. Thanks for this information n/t |
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