Is what Bernie is doing an "actual" filibuster or not? Was the compromise up for a vote?

saracat

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Fri Dec-10-10 03:40 PM
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Is what Bernie is doing an "actual" filibuster or not? Was the compromise up for a vote?

If not, what will is accomplish? I love the message and want the compromise to fail but I am a bit confused with all this.Why are Senators who previously came out against the compromise no silent and what is the meaning( practical application beyond persuation) of Brown and Landreuis support?
I am wondering about about this. Any Senate rules experts out there? I swore I read Bernie said this crap was gonna pass anyway. And what happens since the house opposes it?

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jenmito

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Fri Dec-10-10 03:42 PM
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1. No. He's just venting. There will be a vote on Monday. And I bet he'll vote for it.

Edited on Fri Dec-10-10 03:44 PM by jenmito

The House will pass their version and then they'll get together to combine them to a final bill.

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saracat

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Fri Dec-10-10 03:46 PM
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4. Well, if they do??? And I hope they don't . they can kiss their butts goodbye.

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jenmito

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Fri Dec-10-10 03:48 PM
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5. If the Senate has enough votes, Reid will probably let them vote against it. n/t

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polichick

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Fri Dec-10-10 03:43 PM
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2. Good questions - I don't know but I'm so proud of Bernie Sanders & Sherrod Brown! nt

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saracat

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Fri Dec-10-10 03:50 PM
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7. Anyone who votes FOR this should be primaried..

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alcibiades_mystery

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Fri Dec-10-10 03:44 PM
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3. Not an actual filibuster

Reid gave him room to argue. Nothing procedural is happening right now.

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Kennah

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Fri Dec-10-10 03:49 PM
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6. Senate.gov says "delay or block legislative action"

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Filibuster_Cloture.htm

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jenmito

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Fri Dec-10-10 03:50 PM
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8. Right-and that's not what he's doing. n/t

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Kennah

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Fri Dec-10-10 03:54 PM
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9. Just speculating

Perhaps this is simply tipping the hand to show, "We did this, wait until this thing goes for a vote and a real filibuster occurs."

Yes, I am viewing this through a rose colored lens.

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jenmito

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Fri Dec-10-10 04:00 PM
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11. He has an agreement with Reid that he'll rant today. They won't vote 'til Monday.

He's just blowing off steam.

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golfguru

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Fri Dec-10-10 03:57 PM
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10. The entire house does not oppose it, not on record anyway

only the democratic caucus opposes it by a voice vote.
When the entire house votes, it could be entirely different result.

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jenmito

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Fri Dec-10-10 04:02 PM
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12. And only the Dems. in safe Dem. seats signed the letter opposing it. n/t

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