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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:54 PM Original message |
CNN Poll: 78% of Dems want Obama renominated for a second term |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. I will work for his re-election. |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Same here. |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. this should be an amusing thread. Gobama! |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Haha... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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toddwv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. That's fine in a primary. |
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angrychair (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Again, I just don't understand |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I feel sorry for you. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Pffttt. You wish. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. It has nothing to do with wish. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. So you feel the need to get out ahead of what you are PREDICTING will happen? |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Not a prediction when we have thirty years of history to see what will happen. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. It is a prediction, a prediction used to assault the president with vile recriminations. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Fine. A prediction that is based on historical fact. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Don't flatter yourself. You're a shit-stirrer, nothing more. nt |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. Flatter myself about what? I'm going to praise Obama when he does good. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. You forgot the part about criticizing him for something he hasn't done. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Like what? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Predictions of doom and gloom regarding the disposition of SS for instance. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. But you implied that I claimed something based on nothing. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Your reference "when it all comes crashing down" is where we began. nt |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Oh I see. You still think that history isn't real. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I'm talking about current predictions/accusations. nt |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I feel sorry for you. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Why would it hit me hardest? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Why would it hit angrychair hardest? |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. I've only been angry since the cave on the public option. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. The public option didn't have the votes, period. But HCR lays the groundwork for future improvement. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. The public option only needed 50 votes with reconciliation. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Prove it. Give me a statement from Harry Reid that confirms your claim. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Why would I have to prove it? I'm not the one that said they didn't have the votes. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Because you made the claim re: the public option only needing 50 votes & reconciliation, not me. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I can't wait for Obama to win in 2012 either. See. We can agree. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. You still have provided no proof of your claim re: the PO requiring only 50 votes w/reconciliation. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Does this count? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Not really, because it includes this passage which reflects Reid's concern re: a lack of votes.... |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. "A potential lack of votes needed" proves nothing. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Cherrypicking what Reid said? Your claim re: the public option also proves nothing, then. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #70 |
104. Bookmarking. |
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quickesst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
85. Man.... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. "It"? |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Think September 2008... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Some people could care less about the facts. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
36. Huh? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
73. Nothing doable would ever be "enough." |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
75. I think you don't understand a lot of things. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Prove your claims. You're good at demonizing rhetoric but short on facts. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. I wonder when DU will start to enforce that rule. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. As soon as President Obama announces his re-election plans and OFA's Obama 2012 website starts up. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. Really? You think DU should be like Free Republic? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Are you calling out the admin? It's DU rules. If you don't like it, you know what to do. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I have a problem with DU being like Free Republic. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Supporting Democratic candidates for office at Democratic Underground is a problem for you? |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. The admins aren't enforcing that rule. Why would I whine to them? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. They have during the midterm electons and they will as soon as Obama is the 2012 Dem nominee. |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. it sure will clear the air around here. can't happen soon enough, if you ask me. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
98. Actually, quite the contrary. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. I don't know any of these folks myself. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
39. Hope you won't feel that way should the Republican president make |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. K & R |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. Of Course We Do |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. And 22% don't. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Reread the OP. It has a little rain for your parade. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
62. I don't have a parade, and it's been raining for 2 years now. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Dead wrong. 1st, 3% had no opinion. 2nd, same polling people had 10% of Dems voting for McCain. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Still alive and kicking here. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Its not spin. Its numerical fact. And you can't lose something you never had. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. I'm not making myself look like anything, except for those |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. LOL, your idea of significant is laughable. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. 22% of voters is significant. Laugh all you like. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Its 18%. And 10 of the 18 never supported him. A single digit loss of support. Insignificant. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. I think I can decide how long to leave the 'puter on, thanks. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. This is the part where I bring up the Clinton numbers again and laugh at you some more. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #94 |
108. This is the part where I again point out that Obama is not Clinton, |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Yeah, but after the '94 midterms 44% of Dems didn't want Clinton--but he won convincingly |
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namahage (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Actually, they do. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Thanks for the correction |
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namahage (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. The numbers are even more interesting when you find out who participated in the poll. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Holy crap, you are right. The internals show no one under 50 and/or non-white was polled. |
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namahage (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #72 |
93. Another little tidbit, further down: |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
71. Also, CNN Opinion Research exit polls had 10% of Democrats voting for McCain. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
64. Perhaps. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. lol! Your bias is showing. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
77. No, but the facts I presented above negate that claim. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I fully acknowledge your remarks about Clinton. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Those aren't the remarks I'm talking about. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Wrong again. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. No, it doesn't. No President carries 100% of his entire party. EVER. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. I didn't suggest he did. Which is beside the point. nt |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. Also, this polls internals show that only white southern Democrats over 50 were polled. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. You keep rationalizing, if it makes you feel better. nt |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
76. 22% is much smaller than 78% |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. It is. What percent is large enough to make a difference in the GE? nt |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
26. Besides PUMAs and racists, who made up the other 22%, I wonder? |
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namahage (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
56. White people 50 and over. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
95. They didn't call me. nt |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
96. Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. lol! Of course you don't. BTW, he's winning independents back, too. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
100. Glad to see Americans were watching last week when Obama did good. I was worried |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
101. Obama beat a popular former president's wife inside his own party. Did anyone |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
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103. Likely to fail very quickly |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
105. We should all reserve judgement until we learn his thoughts on Social Security. |
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impik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
106. Those 78% are not the base |
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namahage (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. FWIW, I don't think that number's right, either. |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
109. K & R |
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