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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:02 AM
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Social Security backers on alert for Obama 'code' for benefits compromise
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-25/social-security-backers-on-alert-for-obama-code-for-benefits-compromise.html

President Barack Obama may signal in his State of the Union address tonight that he’s ready for compromises on Social Security -- a political flash point for every president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt created the federal retirement program in 1935. He just won’t say it.

Obama plans to emphasize a balanced approach and shared sacrifice to address the debt, leaving specifics to his February budget proposal. For experts following the debate, uttering those words without making a firm pledge not to tinker with Social Security will be taken as an implicit endorsement of tax increases and benefit cuts.

“He’s going to speak in code,” said Michael Tanner, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute in Washington, which backs benefit cuts.

“The average person on the street won’t have a clue,” said Nancy Altman, an advocate for keeping Social Security as it is, and a top aide on President Ronald Reagan’s Social Security commission. Altman, author of “The Battle for Social Security,” said she is concerned “they’ll try to wrap it into a comprehensive debt-reduction package.”

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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:06 AM
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1. Oh good, now we can accuse him of speaking in code on social security
Wonderful.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:08 AM
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2. Shared sacrifices, political jargon for the poor getting screwed.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 12:22 PM
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10. Bingo.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:33 PM
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12. And taking another whack out of the middle class...
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:40 PM
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15. don't forget "preserve" and "protect" for future generations
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:10 AM
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3. "said Michael Tanner, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute in Washington, which backs benefit cuts"
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 11:10 AM by ProSense
The Cato Institute is a libertarian think tank headquartered in Washington, D.C. It was founded in 1977 by Edward H. Crane, who remains president and CEO, and Charles Koch, chairman of the board and chief executive officer of the oil conglomerate Koch Industries, Inc., the second largest privately held company (after Cargill) by revenue in the United States.<1><2>

link


Warning, crazy zone!

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:19 AM
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5. Cato institute is bad news.
Expecting Obama to come out strong on no cuts to social security for deficit reduction.

Even then, DU'ers will be looking for "code"
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:20 AM
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6. Exactly. Those people are scarier than the tea-baggers.
:crazy:
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:17 AM
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4. "may signal"
Maybe not.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:37 PM
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14. Exactly. nt
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:26 AM
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7. Most ridiculous Pre SOTU article yet
raises everything to a new high for assumption, and made up shit.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:41 AM
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8. It"s Bloomberg Financial News reporting. They are wired into the Adminstration...so I
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 11:42 AM by KoKo
wouldn't discount what they say as "made up shit."
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:20 PM
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17. Keep your FDL Decoder ring handy
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 06:48 PM
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25. I think things have moved on from "FDL DeCODER" to Mad as Hell folks on Wall Street
who DO STILL HAVE MORALS AND PRINCIPLES and are Fighting Back...LOL's We aren't alone in our WILDERNESS!

:D
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 08:14 PM
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33. "Buy Ovaltine!" n/t
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 12:05 PM
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9. It's all speculation, of course, but this has been Obama's style up to now.
He signaled his willingness to compromise on the public option and the tax cuts for the rich before he actually did it. We'll see if the pattern holds for his position on Social Security.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 03:00 PM
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24. His body language will tell it all!!!!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 06:49 PM
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26. He's a VERY COOL BEING....but what Planet does he Come From?
CORPORATE PLANET...from the PLANET OF "Corporations make you Feel Good."
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 07:32 PM
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31. A much saner planet than the one you came from.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 12:26 PM
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11. Maybe he'll BLINK in code which will signal that he wants to cut SS.
:eyes:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:16 PM
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16. 3 blinks means FEMA CAMPS!1!1!
;)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:31 PM
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19. Unless you're a birther...
in which case 3 blinks is a secret message to his Muslim brothers that he's on track to implementing Sharia Law. :)
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:53 PM
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22. Leads me to believe we completely misunderstood Palins winking n/t
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 01:37 PM
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13. The average person won't have a clue because they won't be watching.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 06:50 PM
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27. Jobs at Mikey D's and Wall Mart will do that to 'ya! n/t
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:23 PM
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18. Exactly. Let's not listen to what he actually says...
lets listen for code, and let our interpretations of what he actually says tell us what he actually means.

And, when in doubt, lets go to the Cato Institute for opinion. :banghead:

Sid
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 06:53 PM
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28. The sad thing about it with him...is that the "code words" are the signals to
the folks who backed him. We thought it was US...the Millions of Little Donors...but, it ended up that it was Goldman-Sachs and Wall Street who funded his Presidency.

That's WHY ...he doesn't need to listen to Us OUT HERE! Why should he...we are the people he threw water bottles to when we fainted during his speeches we were so OVERCOME!

Sad........ What fools..
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:36 PM
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20. WAPO/NYT: "Obama draws line in sand on Social Security"
Jan 24. 2011

WASHINGTON — President Obama has decided not to endorse his deficit commission's recommendation to increase the retirement age, and otherwise reduce Social Security benefits, cheering liberals and drawing a stark line between the White House and key Republicans in Congress.

The White House has informed Democratic lawmakers and advocates for seniors that Obama will use Tuesday's State of the Union address to emphasize the need to reduce record deficits, but that he will not call for reducing spending on Social Security — the largest federal program.
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:49 PM
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21. o-nay uts-cay o-tay ocial-say ecurity-say
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 02:49 PM by thelordofhell
Tin foil hat brigade out in force again. There will be no cuts in Social Security. Stop falling for the republican noise machine line.

:tinfoilhat:
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namahage Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 02:58 PM
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23. I predict a rise in sharpshooters in Texas. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 07:20 PM
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29. Now he's sending subliminal messages
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 07:29 PM
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30. They shoud play the record backwards, and then they'd get the REAL SOTU message--"Thank You SATAN."
like this guy did, with Obama's campaign speeches....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqALdkTArqs
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 08:12 PM
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32. Text of speech relevant to SS:
To put us on solid ground, we should also find a bipartisan solution to strengthen Social Security for future generations. And we must do it without putting at risk current retirees, the most vulnerable, or people with disabilities; without slashing benefits for future generations; and without subjecting Americans’ guaranteed retirement income to the whims of the stock market.

And if we truly care about our deficit, we simply cannot afford a permanent extension of the tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of Americans. Before we take money away from our schools, or scholarships away from our students, we should ask millionaires to give up their tax break.

It’s not a matter of punishing their success. It’s about promoting America’s success.

In fact, the best thing we could do on taxes for all Americans is to simplify the individual tax code. This will be a tough job, but members of both parties have expressed interest in doing this, and I am prepared to join them.

So now is the time to act. Now is the time for both sides and both houses of Congress – Democrats and Republicans – to forge a principled compromise that gets the job done. If we make the hard choices now to rein in our deficits, we can make the investments we need to win the future.


http://nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/exclusive-obama-to-declare-the-rules-have-changed--20110125
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