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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:23 PM
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It is very disappointing that Obama didn't use the words "Climate Change"
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 11:24 PM by jimlup
We face what may be the greatest catastrophe in human history and yet Obama is afraid to say it. Sorry, I'm bitterly disappointed. Yes, I strongly agree that actions are the key here. And he said some strong things about alternative energy but he played a non-existent middle by not mentioning climate change by name. It will come back to haunt him, not politically for himself, but, in the long term he gave ground that he shouldn't have given.

http://climateprogress.org/2011/01/25/obama-sputnik-clean-energy-standard-climate-change-global-warming/
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:25 PM
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1. Did you hear what Barbara Boxer said to Lawrence O'Donnell
..... she said that Obama did not use the words, but his plans for the future address the issue.

All MSNBC programs can be seen the next day or late online.

Barbara Boxer is one of my heroes.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:36 PM
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3. Yes...
He spent a lot of time talking about phasing out fossil fuels, creating alternative energy, etc. It was not necessary to point out why these things are necessary.

Boxer also said that he was going to stay away from triggers. Which I think was a very good idea. Why give them ammunition.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:31 PM
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2. I honestly don't see how he gave any ground on this issue
He framed it in a way that was accessible to more people. Saying "we need to do something about climate change" isn't going to motivate anybody who isn't already passionate about stopping climate change. But saying "investing in new energy will help create more jobs" gets people who are not particularly interested in climate change but are interested in jobs to support policies that are good for the environment.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:37 PM
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4. Politics sure but...
I still have a problem with his failure to acknowledge the important scientific conclusion. Obviously it was politics. Duh! That's what I'm complaining about. The truth is actually more important than "politics".

It was a mistake and if he were a real leader he would be able to speak the truth. He isn't and he can't.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:39 PM
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5. Getting things done is FAR more important
than engaging in arguments about its existence.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:42 PM
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6. Agreed but we aren't going to get things done.
Obama's failure to pass climate legislation leaves us open to catastrophic failure from republican obstructionism. I'm pissed and I'll admit it. Sure, we need all that stuff and more. But mark my words, the republicans will cut down every effort to make that work. It was a mistake and I'll stand by that sentiment. It undermines the political position of those trying to affect the change.

Obama isn't a real leader, he just plays one on TV. He plays the center and the sides against each other. It may bit him in 2012, we'll see.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 11:54 PM
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7. Yep, it's hard to see how USAmerica is going to achieve
Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 11:55 PM by ProudDad
the MINIMUM of an 80% reduction from 1990 levels of greenhouse gas emissions that we MUST have by 2050...

To reasonably expect the Earth to survive the next century as a viable habitat for air-breathing mammals...

at the glacial NON-PACE it's going now...

Like during 2 years of Dem "dominance" of the W.H. House and Senate they've achieved ZERO reduction -- just increase...
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:34 AM
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8. "Climate change" is the Republican term for global warming. nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:36 AM
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9. And?
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 02:10 AM
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11. So why does the OP want Obama to use Republican terminology?
It doesn't matter, anyway. Everyone in the country knows why we're interested in alternative energy. No reason to get into a discussion of the whys. For some it's global warming. For others it's no dependence on foreign oil (but usu. those people don't want alternative energy; they want to drill more domestically, esp in the Alaska Wildlife Refuge). And for others it's a combination of both.

The why doesn't matter. That's why he didn't get into that. The whole country, pretty much, knows we need to make strides in alternative energy. He was presenting a plan forward, not getting into a discussion of background reasons for the plan, at least regarding this.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:55 AM
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10. the repukes would not like that
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 08:46 AM
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12. Climate change v. Black Plague
I think Plague was worse then climate change will ever be in the "greatest catastrophe in human history" sweepstakes.

Some people see Alexander the Great's invasions as the worst thing in human history. Others the Mongols. Still others see the Great Leap Forward. Or the various Chinese civil wars.

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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 11:11 AM
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13. I missed most of the speech - he didn't even say the words?
Pretty much par for the course, I'm afraid.
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Still a Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 11:23 AM
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14. But if he used the term and didn't mention policies to back it up
I suspect you wouldn't like that either.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 11:38 AM
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15. I noticed that and no mention of the murder of the G. of Mex.
nt
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