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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:24 PM Original message |
Obama proposes slashing heating aid to the poor. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. "It's not what you think it is!" "He *has* to do it!" "It's actually *progressive*!," etc. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. it better not. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
28. It has. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 03:46 AM Response to Reply #28 |
46. and of course the heating oil companies would *never* raise their rates in the mean time! |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Progressive... only because the goal posts have been moved to Long Island |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. this just a few weeks after extending the tax cuts for the wealthy |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. Appalling. LIHEAP is a vitally needed program. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. John Kerry asks Obama to reconsider |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. The cuts really wouldn't make sense. |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. it's a blatant |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. "Anyone want to defend him on this?" Have you considered that |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. it's not speculation. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. I hope it was speculation |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I said trial balloon, |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Missed that - do you mean someone in the administration floated it |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. It's hard to tell what's going on |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I agree with you - and reading Kerry's actual letter, he speaks of POTENTIAL cuts |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
62. We don't need politicos playing games with the lives of real people. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:18 AM Response to Reply #62 |
90. This whole thing is most likely a lie to get people riled up. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
89. Most of this stuff is what people hear. And then people claim it's Obama who's doing such and such. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #89 |
96. +++ a lot! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #89 |
99. Amen, and amen! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
81. Bravo |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #81 |
108. Just like a liberal. Always wanting ponies and puppies. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 02:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
84. That's how it started with extending the tax cuts for the rich |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
107. Just how many freezing children are you okay with? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
10. The only thing I can come up with is |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
14. Interesting--the slash brings it back to about 2008 levels-- |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
15. NPR repeats an article from the National Review ... oh no!!!! nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
18. That is what happens when Trillion dollar deficits exist every year |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Thank you. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. "It doesn't matter much what the President proposes for a budget" |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
110. Yeah, it's not like Obama holds a veto pen or anything. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
23. It is indeed disgusting |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I don't see anyone doing this but carry on with the ragedump. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. ... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Bookmarking. |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
51. Umm... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 02:06 AM Response to Reply #29 |
85. All of which YOU said about the tax cuts for bazillionaires |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:37 AM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Are you for, or against, cuts to military budgets which largely put money in the pockets of workers? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-09-11 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
35. Interesting |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. "Harrd choices" = "not the ones going hungry". |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
58. We shall see n/t |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
105. We already have seen. |
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akbacchus_BC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
38. Where is Chavez when Americans need him and his oil for poor people? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Here in the Northeast I feel that Chavez cares more than Obama does. |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. To believe that 'Chavez cares about you' is the height of naivete. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Our President is making it rather easy for the perception to be made. |
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akbacchus_BC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
40. I unrec because no way will President Obama do that to poor people. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
66. He gave 5 billion in 2010 to the LIHEAP who would be getting cut here. |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
74. Then why float the balloon? |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:22 AM Response to Reply #74 |
91. Who stated it was Obama who floated the balloon? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #91 |
104. If that's the case, then the president lacks the ability to manage his people. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
41. No i will not defend him |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 02:59 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Isn't it mean to deny heating to those who can't afford it? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 05:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Mean? I'm mean? I care about the people who will suffer if this happens |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:57 AM Response to Reply #48 |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:24 AM Response to Reply #48 |
92. You're peddling this information as though it's a fact. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #43 |
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Citizen Worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:57 AM Response to Original message |
47. But there's plenty of money for banks and bombs. Cuts have to be made somewhere and the ruling class |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
50. I'm not going to defend the decision |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
53. What is wrong with him? I surely wish we'd gotten Al Gore and then |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
55. I'll file this next to "he's going to announce SS cuts at the SOTU." |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. As always. At this point...nothing can stop the rage.n/t |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #55 |
97. and vetoing DADT, thats a fat file as well. |
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mochajava666 (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
57. There is no defense for this hypocrite |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Why don't you wait until you see the ENTIRE budget proposal before puking out such insults? |
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mochajava666 (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #68 |
95. Because he has lost any credibility |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. You realize this is all speculation right. Like the bogus like about the SS cuts. n/t |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #64 |
82. Uh, we're not out of the woods on SS yet. Not by a long shot. eom |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:25 AM Response to Reply #82 |
93. Are we still on this? We've been out of that for a while. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #93 |
100. Well he has lied to us about things. |
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Lard (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
60. Nothing you can say |
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WiffenPoof (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
61. This Seems To Be Another... |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
63. Not to be funny but NPR has lied countless times. Secondly, no proof yet. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
67. What a bunch of panic-button-pushing extremist Obama-bashing. THAT is what is DISGUSTING ! |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. It is a cut. Just like not implementing the bush/obama tax cuts would have |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:13 AM Response to Reply #70 |
87. Actually the article states it's a cut. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
69. And he also is proposing ELIMINATING subsidies to big oil, and major military cuts. How about that?? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. The military cuts a drop in the bucket. He is still keeping his wars going. |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. I love the attitude "well he did this so doing that is okay" |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:10 AM Response to Reply #71 |
86. No he's not. MIlitary cuts don't work well with keeping wars. That's just logic. |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:24 AM Response to Reply #69 |
80. Sauce has never been so weak. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
72. There's no way anyone can defend that. n/t |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
73. If he has to float trial balloons, why not one about withdrawing from Afghanistan? |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
75. How about scrapping that ridiculous missile shield in Europe |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
77. This is a joke ... like something from the Onion,...right? |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-10-11 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
78. this would not be a good idea n/t |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
79. It is better for their health |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
83. Hmm, where is the trial balloon coming from the WH suggesting an |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 03:14 AM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Dunno...last year Obama gave 5 billion to LIHEAP. Does it make any sense he's doing massive cuts? |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #88 |
94. No, not at all that I can see, no cuts for the poor should be his motto. n/t |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-11-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #88 |
98. The number for 2010 was for $8 M, so these are massive cuts. That the $3 additional M come from a |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
101. stimulus funding for programs is expiring. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #101 |
111. Why was the funding increased? On a whim? |
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Moral_Imagination (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
102. So you thought the Stimulus would stay in effect forever? |
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Avant Guardian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Gotta pay for those Bush tax cuts somehow |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Just like cutting Social Security was supposed to do? |
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Avant Guardian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. Yeah, Obama didn't extend those tax cuts for the rich |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-12-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #102 |
109. So the rich get to keep their stimulus, but poor children |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
113. Obama will say he hated to do it, but we've got to get the deficit down while rich got their tax cut |
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Marnie (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-13-11 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
114. Obama to freeze elderly and kids to death. Repubs kill Kermit the Frog |
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