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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:39 AM Original message |
Does anyone recall a single instance during the Bush years when they mentioned needing 60 votes? |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Of course. That's what all the "nuclear option" talk was about. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. The "nuclear option" had to do with reducing the filibuster proof majority, right? |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. They mounted the exact same "filibuster" that Joe and friends are mounting now. |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. We don't hear "Up or down vote!" much anymore either. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Haven't heard it once from a Dem Senator. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes, for cloture |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
3. Nope |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. No. Didn't seem to need it. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
5. They only needed 51 votes. Democrats need 60. |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
8. "Up or Down Vote!!!" |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
9. AGain, Repukes march in lockstep |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
10. It's a total sham, we don't need 60 votes. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
11. All they had to do was say you aren't supporting the troops |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
13. The Dems did filibuster occasionally... |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. They didn't need to drill the public they just passed what they wanted via reconciliation which Reid |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Not as simple as that... |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. So split the bill into a reconciliation part and a non-reconciliation part. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. but then we heard about the dems filibustering |
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fugop (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
15. Democrats |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
16. I've come to the conclusion that the "60" number is a cover to make compromises |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Yep. nt |
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euphoria12leo (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
19. Kent Jones on Rachel Maddow's show would say |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
20. Conservatives have extra weapons. |
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