There is one, and only one enemy:

The Republican Party. Time to focus on them. Everyone made the last 2 years all about Obama while the rethugs were given a complete pass despite their nation destroying ways. Maybe now, less than two years before the next election - We will wake up. Finally.

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filling the House and Senate with more Democrats so that he can carry out his agenda.

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We may have differences over the best strategies to win -- and on how to actually govern -- but most of the criticism is based in the shared goal of defeating the GOP electorally and moving government and society in a more positive, liberal/progressive direction.

look like a picnic.

The enemy a lot of you seem to be fighting are Democrats with brains that are capable of both opposing Republicans and seeing weaknesses in Obama.

Don't parse words, it's called attacking and blaming Obama for everything, real and imagined.

Focus.

R vs. D is the distraction.

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This 2 party system was set up to keep the working classes feeling like they were accomplishing something which before the New Deal, they really weren't actually accomplishing much at all and what was accomplished was through the blood, sweat and tears of union workers who struck and struck and were beaten and killed until the wrong side, the oligarchy finally gave up. I'm reading Howard Zinn's powerful History of the People right now and I happen to be at the early 1900s and it's eerily familiar.

I'm not saying after years here, that I'm gonna go sing Kumbaya with the teabaggers - they are the easiest led bunch of wankers ever. That said, this isn't about D vs R, though the Koch brothers thank you for your help.

The neo-liberals have taken over the the Democratic Party Brand earned by FDR.

The neo-liberals support repeatedly failed and magical (for economic royalists) economic policy and are amoral about the individual.

Neo-liberal goals are concentrated short term at the expense of the future.

One result is that the Planet, economy, and human society are not treated as ecosystems but used as mines.

Like neo-conservatives, neo-liberals are Machiavellian.

i don't care about republicans -- i know what they are.

i care about the progressive power that has gone to the neo-liberals in the democratic party.

Whatever mask it wears is irrelevant.

You win. We all win if we can take home that message.

They're conducting an economic compromise of both parties, rendering your voting choice down to "Rule by Teh Old Testuhmunt Jesus" vs "Slightly less Puritan Social Agenda".

How anyone can still claim that as long as Democrats get elected, everything will be just peachy is beyond me. It must take an astonishing level of faith, like still believing that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, or that tax cuts for the rich will stimulate the economy.

there are many here on DU that will still sit-out or vote third party to protest the President. This is going allow the Republicans to win in 2012.

The fact that the Republican party is more closely tied to the oligarchy often leads us to that conclusion.

Think class distinction rather than political. The upper class has been using our confusion and denial of class consciousness to very good use for a very long time. When working classes wake up to the fact that they are being screwed by people who only want their money and couldn't give a rats ass about their lives, amazing things happen. Sometimes a Tahrir Square moment happens, sometimes Marie Antoinette loses her head and sometimes stupid people like Scott Walker who likes to think of himself as an oligarch when he's actually an oligarch's puppet decide to wake the sleeping giant. The workers are awake now and class consciousness is being looked at very closely. Interesting times ahead.

That includes breaking the ties too many of the centrist conservaDems have with the oligarchs themselves.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Democrats have flaws, Republicans are just f***ing evil! There ARE definite differences between the two parties and nobody can honestly say that this all would've happened with the Democrats in charge in Wisconsin (nor can anybody say they didn't desperately try to stop this either).

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Democrats have flaws, Republicans are just f***ing evil! There ARE definite differences between the two parties and nobody can honestly say that this all would've happened with the Democrats in charge in Wisconsin (nor can anybody say they didn't desperately try to stop this either).

Although, I can't in good conscience actually call all Republicans "evil". I can call them delusional freaks with a fear of progress and brown people that are out to destroy the middle class.

mostly just Republican POLITICIANS. I have regularly voted for Richard Lugar here in Indiana- one of the few halfway decent Republicans left in Congress- and I have friends and family members whom are Republicans though not of the delusion and/or sociopathic (what I consider to be "evil") variety- more the average working-class misinformed/uninformed religious fear-based kind of Republican whom simply have been brainwashed by Fox News and their preachers into voting Republican against their own interests.
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Just pickin' on ya.

I'm originally from Chicago and knew very few Rs and had very, very few friends that were Rs. Moved to Arizona...I'm friggin surrounded. Most of my friends are Republican and crazy. Flippin' hysterical when I know they get welfare and/or food stamps and they start whining about entitlement programs and socialism.

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that they must have to put themselves through in order to keep their heads from exploding from all of the cognitive dissonance must be pretty amazing, eh?
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It's always "Focus on the evil GOP -- but ignore the real substance of what is at stake once again just to get more D's in office."

In my opinion that pattern has to be changed.

Beyond the GOP, the other crucial goal is for the Democratic Party to actually embrace, represent and push for real liberal reform and progressive populism, and align itself with the real economic role and power of working and middle class.

If the Democrats actually do that in a clear and unambiguous way (and not keep muddying the waters by reinforcing the message of the corporate oligarchs) then IMO that is also how they will win over voters electorally.

...they buy politicians in both parties. The sooner we recognize that, the more we can be clear about how to fight them.

All while doing exactly nothing except making it easy for the opposition. As loony as the tea party is, they made sure they got their people in positions of power, and when they couldn't, they made sure a puke got in. One thing they didn't do was throw their hands up in resignation. Is the hope that Democrats will open their eyes one day and become Kucinich?

2 party system. What's it going to take for you wake up? How many more elections? How many more WTF moments? How many more times will you have to ask why before the obvious dawns on you?

They live right next door. (And, no, I'm not talking about Mexico or Canada.)

Ronald Reagan, current Republicans, he thinks they're all just peachy.

Mabe cuz he is one of them?

He does NOT think the same of Republicans as you seem to.

...make that possible.

herding cats, I tell ya.

Us fighting them while he appeases them is really, really stupid on our part.

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