Obama beat McCain by 14 points in WI. If only those voters had gotten to the polls in 2010. nt

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Thu Mar-10-11 11:35 AM
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Obama beat McCain by 14 points in WI. If only those voters had gotten to the polls in 2010. nt

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tabatha

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Thu Mar-10-11 11:40 AM
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1. Yep.

We have now seen what happens if Republicans get into power.

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vaberella

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Thu Mar-10-11 11:40 AM
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2. This is exactly right. This whole thing could have been avoided if they went to vote. n/t

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FredStembottom

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Thu Mar-10-11 11:44 AM
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3. That's my 30 year message: Disappointed? Too bad. You vote anyways.

And you primary out those that seek to cripple the Democratic Party from the inside.

I almost didn't take my own advice this year due to a combination of extreme disappointment and chronic illness.

But MineralMan was there to yell at me and got me up and active.

Let's always do this for each other.:patriot:

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Tarheel_Dem

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Thu Mar-10-11 11:45 AM
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4. But they had to teach Obama a lesson...remember? Well, lesson learned..

the hard way. Hopefully, they now know better, and won't be discouraged by a media that tells them to be disenchanted.

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Blue Owl

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Thu Mar-10-11 11:47 AM
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5. Walker is a proven cheater

What if he cheated to win? Or if votes were flipped on the electronic, GOP-manufactured equipment?

Is it really that much of a stretch of the imagination, given the revelations of his prank call, the GOP's past history, and the contempt they have for laws?

Walker is in it to win it for his corporate masters -- nobody else wins.

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yodermon

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Thu Mar-10-11 11:49 AM
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6. Political activists and the "plugged-in" understand this. Ordinary folks do not.

If they do not *feel* fired up/inspired/sense of urgency, they will not vote.

It is up to the candidates to *get* them to vote. Guilt-tripping does not work on the casual voter. It turns them off.

Obama *nailed* this in '08 (14 points like you said).

He slow-played it in '10, I think on purpose, but then again I'm a cynical asshole.

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Davis_X_Machina

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Thu Mar-10-11 11:51 AM
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7. Somebody had to send a message.

And stop the White House's rightward drift.

Thank God they did. And you can see the results every day.

I mean you can, can't you?

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Thu Mar-10-11 11:54 AM
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8. And now the entire state is hurting because Obama turned neo-Republican

thereby sapping any enthusiasm average working people had for him.

The Corporate Democrats' strategy of relying on the young, cosmopolitan moderately socially-liberal upper income "professional" class instead of average working Joe's and Jane's has really worked, hasn't it?

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Azathoth

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Thu Mar-10-11 02:08 PM
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18. Yeah, Obama put a gun to their heads and forced them to vote against their own interests

Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 02:09 PM by Azathoth

It had nothing to do with scumbags like those in the leadership of the WI police and firefighter unions. You know, the guys who endorsed the candidate with the history of union-busting, and then had to feign outrage when said candidate exempted them from the ensuing (entirely predictable) union massacre.

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Pab Sungenis

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Thu Mar-10-11 11:55 AM
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9. If only Obama

had made them WANT to get to the polls.

Honestly, the one big thing that these teahadist bozos and the revolt against them are doing is making center-right Obama policies look progressive. And the right to the right continues.

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Kahuna

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Thu Mar-10-11 12:13 PM
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10. What does the president have to do with state governments? The people

knew there was a fair chance that their entire government could fall into repuke rule. You expect the president to do something about THAT??? Pray tell, what?

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Pab Sungenis

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Thu Mar-10-11 03:10 PM
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21. Not discourage and alienate his base.

A lot of Obama 2008 people, some of us who were with him early in the primaries, are completely alienated by him. And a lot of them didn't vote because they didn't see the point. Especially the new voters he attracted the first time out.

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Avant Guardian

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Thu Mar-10-11 01:44 PM
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16. The youth vote that put Obama in office didn't materialize

The youth movement that brought Obama into office hung heavily onto the 'Hope' and 'Change' memes. When Obama began to embrace the RW, his memes were largely neutralized.

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Pisces

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Thu Mar-10-11 12:13 PM
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11. If only Obama had gone to their house and drove them to the polls!

People don't vote in the midterms and now they are seeing what non action can reap.

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Kahuna

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Thu Mar-10-11 12:15 PM
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12. Yep. And they have the nerve to blame the President because they

Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 12:45 PM by Kahuna

have a repuke govenor and legislators. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

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thoughtcrime1984

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Thu Mar-10-11 12:24 PM
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13. Keep in mind that virtually all Wisconsinites that you see on DU

DID vote, and always DO vote. It's the damn least anybody can do. But, yes, I am ashamed by my state's PATHETIC 27% voter turnout. Elections matter, no matter how disenfranchised a person feels. Now it is time to fight through this via recalls, protests, and VOTING in a very important, upcoming State Supreme Court election, which could swing our SC to a 4-3 liberal lean. That will be crucial to overturn any legislation that is taken to the High Court.

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JVS

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Thu Mar-10-11 12:50 PM
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14. In 2008 things sucked and the incumbent party lost. In 2010 things still sucked and the incumbent..

Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 12:52 PM by JVS

party lost.

This is what happens when we have a country governed by a binary party system, but if you don't like it go to Russia.

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tekisui

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Thu Mar-10-11 01:05 PM
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15. You are right, and it really is that simple.

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Avant Guardian

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Thu Mar-10-11 01:46 PM
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17. Russia has a four party system

Thus the two party system problem does not exist.

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CakeGrrl

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Thu Mar-10-11 02:11 PM
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19. That's it. If you don't vote, you get what you get. n/t

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WolfoftheWild

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Thu Mar-10-11 02:15 PM
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20. They wanted to teach Obama a lesson or something...

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Safetykitten

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Thu Mar-10-11 03:11 PM
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22. Only if Earth was invaded by centrist leaning aliens! Oh boy, that would show them.

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JoeyT

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Thu Mar-10-11 09:20 PM
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23. Yeah, they voted for Obama in 2010.

And it's a good thing too. Otherwise they might have had a president that pushed free trade policies.

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Hippo_Tron

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Fri Mar-11-11 12:34 AM
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24. The problem is that voting isn't individually rational

The probability of the election coming down to one vote is so absurdly small that if your aim is to influence an election, voting doesn't really help you achieve that.

Voters didn't make a conscious decision to elect Democrats in 2008 and then punish them by staying home in 2010. Something about 2008 got them to act in an irrational manner and vote, despite the fact that their vote doesn't make any difference.

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Fri Mar-11-11 01:52 AM
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25. K&R- Yeah...If only...nt...

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