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center rising Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:05 AM
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Media plays both sides in Libyan war
This is when I can't stand our media. Last week, when the media wasn't talking about Japan, they were harping on the fact that the world was standing by while Muammar Gaddafi was killing his own people. Airplanes were dropping bombs on the rebels, Gaddafi's army was advancing toward Benghazi with nothing but a rag tag bunch of rebels standing in their way. Why isn't anything being done to help these people was the cry from the cable shows. These people are going to be slaughtered if someone, (the US) doesn't intervene.

Come to today. The US and their coalition partners are instituting a no-fly zone, taking out Gaddafi's tanks, bombing airfields, and generally making Gaddafi's life miserable. But the media, who only a few days earlier were asking why no one was helping the rebels are today asking why we are even there in the first place. Chris Matthews wants to know why we are there, and said the war was moving too slowly, whatever the hell that means. CNN interviewed Richard Lugar who severely questioned the mission. Dennis Kucinich wants Obama impeached. We didn't hear from these people last week. Now that Obama has committed air power, these people now crawl out of the woodwork.

The media played up the fact that the rebels were in serious trouble, and something had to be done about it. They questioned Obama about the fact that he was dragging his feet, and didn't seem interested in Libya at all. Now when he does something, the media turns quite hypocritical and bashes Obama at every turn. These people are quite insidious!! This is why I sometimes hate the media!!
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:06 AM
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1. It's part of the Centerist game.

Triangulation.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:10 AM
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2. Yep, yep, yep.....
that's what they do.

And watch that whichever of the Dems go after Obama...
well, they will get a whole lot of TV time.

Any protests against Obama for this; they will be televised.....
and even if the Iraq Protests got barely a word.

Read this, if you haven't....http://www.democratsforprogress.com/2011/03/21/about-those-incredibly-arrogant-and-usually-wrong-media-pundits/
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:20 AM
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5. Dennis is everywhere. We need a new definition for "bleeding-heart liberal" because it certainly
doesn't mean what it used to mean.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:18 AM
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3. It's not just the media. People screaming about this would have been blaming Obama for the Benghazi
Massacre if he'd done nothing. I have to say that the reaction has been friggin nuts. This must be the definition of a no-win situation. When did the left become against humanitarian interventions?

I guess Clinton and Poppy Bush were "politically" smart to just let Rwanda happen & not protect the Shiites when they rose up after the first Gulf War.

So.Fucking.Odd.

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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:26 AM
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7. see my response below. -nt
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:19 AM
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4. The Media is Very Consistent
They always criticize Obama, no matter what he does.


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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:22 AM
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6. Why haven't they mentioned
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 12:24 AM by democrat2thecore
Why haven't they mentioned that the so-called "rebels" are the same al-Qeada linked "radical jihadists" that Gaddafi was praised for fighting in WikiLeaks cables?

Why haven't they mentioned that Gaddafi gave the strongest pro-US statement, of ANY Muslim leader, after 9/11?

Why haven't they mentioned this:

"COLONEL Muammar Gaddafi's regime secretly provided information to Britain and the US on Islamic extremists in the east of Libya, according to leaked diplomatic cables and intelligence sources."

"The names of hundreds of suspects were passed to the CIA and British intelligence."

“There was a strong, shared concern between Gaddafi and the US and UK Governments about radical Sunni jihadist terrorists, including the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG),” Paul Pillar, a CIA veteran who negotiated with Libya over its nuclear program, told The Times.

Diplomatic cables obtained by WikiLeaks paint eastern Libya as a fertile ground for radical extremism. One source told US officials in 2008 that for young men from Derna, a city east of Benghazi, “resistance against coalition forces in Iraq was an important act of 'jihad' and a last act of defiance against the Gaddafi regime”.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/gaddafi-regime-fed-names-of-jihadists-to-uk-cia/story-fn7ycml4-1226025836662

Note the portion above in the Wikileaks cables about the jihadists in eastern Libya, which the media are now calling "rebel-controlled" areas.

Why haven't they mentioned this from TIME Magazine on May 16th, 2006:

"On Monday, Gaddafi accomplished one of history's great diplomatic turnarounds when Secretary of State Condeleezza Rice announced that the U.S. was restoring full diplomatic relations with Libya and held up the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya as "a model" for others to follow. Rice attributed the ending of the U.S.'s long break in diplomatic relations to Gaddafi's historic decision in 2003 to dismantle weapons of mass destruction and renounce terrorism as well as Libya's "excellent cooperation in response to common global threats faced by the civilized world since September 11, 2001."

Why aren't they talking about this part of Gaddafi's letter to Obama:

Gaddafi wrote to Obama less than 72 hours ago on why he continues to use his troops in rebel cities: "Al Qaeda is an armed organisation, passing through Algeria, Mauritania and Mali. What would you do if you found them controlling American cities with the power of weapons? What would you do, so I can follow your example."

So, are we fighting al-Qeada or not?

And if that's not scary enough, somebody sent me a lot of information and this youtube link which is a thirty second sound bite from MSNBC that should really perk you up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkir4RD55xA

Could somebody clear all this insanity up?

Edit to include links

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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 12:29 AM
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8. +1 for facts over opinion/hysteria. n/t
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 01:02 AM
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9. Thanks. I'm really irritated that a parrallel universe has sprung up and nobody seems to notice -nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 01:14 AM
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10. So your conclusion is that it is Kadaffi that should be "saved"
because we are really helping Al Qaeda? really? :eyes:

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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 01:23 AM
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11. Am I to ignore the facts?
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 01:33 AM by democrat2thecore
As recently as LAST YEAR we were praising Libya for their fight against the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) in eastern Libya due to their being a "clone of the Taliban." Today --- they're rebels just fighting for freedom.

Believe what you want. You use the roll eyes like I have presented anything less than facts. I agree it seems preposterous - but do some deeper research and see how we are being duped by religious fanatics who have always hated Gaddafi.

edit to add: We don't even know who would REPLACE Gaddafi!!!! That's a tip something is VERY wrong. (See sound clip from NBC in my post)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 01:39 AM
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12. We didn't know who would replace the leader of Egypt.....
but since our job is not to pick the leaders of other countries,
I'm ok with that. That's no "tip".....that something is "wrong".

All those countries of the U.N. fooled!
What pawns!

Anyways, Kaddafi's PR dept thanks you.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 02:02 AM
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14. So, our job is just to lob the Tomahawks? -nt
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 01:43 AM
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13. All true.
I'm glad not everyone is buying in to the elites' PR.
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