I'm starting to give up. I fear Obama isn't the intellectual we all thought

This Libya shit is just dumb. The only way to win is to kill Gaddafi, but that isn't even going to happen. There is no winning in Afghanistan unless you get Bin Laden, that's not going to happen.

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"The only way to win is to kill Gaddafi, but that isn't even going to happen. There is no winning in Iraq unless you get Bin Laden."

...you're judging intellect?

What does Bin Laden have to do with Iraq?

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pointed out both the irony and idiocy of the OP.

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certain people should not considered qualified to judge intellect.

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and in regards to the UN?

I have a feeling you'd be saying we look stupid sitting by and letting Ghaddaffi slaughter innocent people while France and Britain are at least doing something.

It is time to give up when there is nothing that seems right to you.

not everyone else is in doomsday mode, and since none of the discussion around here seems to help your outlook, then what are you getting out of it?

Bush<Iraq Iraq=War, thus Libya=War, thus Obama<

it isn't the same but..........


can less than more than show up here? I tried it in the title but it didnt show

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you said things like, "God I hope Obama is the leader I voted for. We need real leadership right now. I hope he doesn't crawl to the middle like Clinton did. The Change we all want is still possible if we have strong leadership." :eyes:

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starting to give up, doubt his leadership, etc. The rest of your post makes no sense. I said nothing about blaming liberals.

for having such high expectations.

As Commander-in-Chief, I will never hesitate to defend this nation, but I will only send our troops into harm’s way with a clear mission and a sacred commitment to give them the equipment they need in battle and the care and benefits they deserve when they come home. I will end this war in Iraq responsibly, and finish the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan. I will rebuild our military to meet future conflicts. But I will also renew the tough, direct diplomacy that can prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and curb Russian aggression. I will build new partnerships to defeat the threats of the 21st century: terrorism and nuclear proliferation; poverty and genocide; climate change and disease. And I will restore our moral standing, so that America is once again that last, best hope for all who are called to the cause of freedom, who long for lives of peace, and who yearn for a better future.

Source: Speech at 2008 Democratic National Convention Aug 27, 2008

at least from your PM's.

Your post history would suggest that you gave up when California was called for Obama in 2008.

you will get a TOTALLY different response. Just try it - trust me. :hi: