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HardWorkingDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:17 AM Original message |
Tweety pointed something out that should put the Birther crap to rest... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. You would think. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
2. Not to the birthers, because they have this other theory. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-09-11 12:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
48. And the first 8 or ten presidents were born British, let's not forget. n/t |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-09-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. they were specificly grandfathered in |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-09-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. And Obama was born in Hawaii, which in 1961 was a US state. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I am not saying he isn't |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
3. It is about hate and not birth. |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
4. President has to be natural born. |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 05:30 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Then John McCain is not a natural born US citizen. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. McCain is, but somehow, not so much proof is demanded: |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Of course he is. Both his parents were US citizens |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. But why don't they want to see the documents? |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Let me think .......... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 05:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. natural born means "born" a citizen and if you're citizenship comes from parents --you are |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
47. Thanks for clarification. But the man was born here |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
5. Parents must have lived in US for 5 years after age 14 |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 05:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. if? are you a birther? |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
32. No, I believe he was born in Hawaii |
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Travelman (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Because he can't under Hawaiian law |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. so what he released was not official? |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. My wife lost her birth certificate |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Does it need to be the long form or not to be official --in your opinion? |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Frankly I do not know |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. if you don't know then why are you casting judgment on Obama's? |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Because that is all you hear in the news |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. Not all states have two types of birth certificates. Like the poster stated, his wife |
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Travelman (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Obama's COLB has the raised state seal |
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golfguru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. So why is is the BC even an issue? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
38. self delete |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 04:21 AM Response to Original message |
6. President Obama was born in Hawaii after it became a state of the US. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. And even if it weren't a state yet, he'd still be a citizen: |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Thanks for this - that helps with the age and territory argument |
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HardWorkingDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Now, Matthews has been 100 percent out in front of this story from the start... |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. While I totally agree with you about killing the mikes, |
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HardWorkingDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Thank you for your information.... |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 04:22 AM Response to Original message |
7. I have no doubt whatsoever that Obama was born in Hawaii. |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 06:09 AM Response to Original message |
11. But, but, but..he's still BLACK, ya know!!! |
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InAbLuEsTaTe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 07:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Exactly, the rethugs got a different standard if you're black. Disgusting. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Exactly, why did they never care before? |
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Moody (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
12. I am enjoying it. The Republicans are looking more looney by the minute. |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 07:53 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Most republicans believe the birther claim. It is now necessary that they all get on the |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
13. I think the birthers don't care if it's true. They just want to keep the rumors alive. |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
15. No. It won't stop. This is now like the Swift Boating when Kerry ran. Any republican running in |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I disagree completely. The RWers will allow Trump to lead this. |
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Keith Bee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
17. The wingnuts could go back in time to Hawaii, 1961 and |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
18. No. The birthers evolved to the point of conceding that even if Obama was born in Hawaii |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Yes, they get more and more ridiculous |
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divineorder (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-09-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
49. About those stolen SS numbers |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
20. The birthers will point out that that wasn't the law back in the 60's. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
21. In 1961, the US parent had to have 5 years of residence from age 14. |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
28. It SHOULD, but it won't. |
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Travelman (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Yep. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
35. Someone else also made a good point: Why would his mother and father, in their attempt |
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divineorder (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-09-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Good point |
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MurrayDelph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-10-11 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
54. Logic don't work against hard-core crazy |
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