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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 04:45 PM
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More Facebook garbage. Guess it is time to defriend a few people. This is the latest.
Let's be clear on this: OBAMA did NOT kill Bin Laden. An American soldier, who Obama just a few weeks ago was debating on whether or not to PAY, did. Obama just happened to be the one in office when our soldiers finally found OBL and took him out. This is NOT an Obama victory, but an AMERICAN victory!!
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 04:47 PM
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1. Yep, so did the soldiers give the order?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 04:51 PM
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2. It was the GOPers who wanted to shut down the government
Not the President.

They are the ones who didn't want to pay the soldiers. And the President IS the commander in chief and therefore ultimately accountable for the operation. He also is the one who approved the operation to cross into Pakistan for the raid.

This is an Obama victory for AMERICA. The only thing left out was the profit for the corporations because they didn't drop a bunch of million dollar bombs.

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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:21 AM
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26. +++++++++++1
This would annoy the hell out of my kid. Though he considers himself Independent and not a huge Pres. Obama supporter, he was well aware of who was threatening his paycheck and made it very clear to his buddies.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 04:51 PM
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3. Obama gave the order
and participated in the planning of the strike. Like it or not the success or failure of this mission was on him. Would your "friend" have given Obama a pass if this mission failed? I doubt it . He would have blamed Obama for sanctioning a failed mission.

Can't have it both ways. The plan and execution of the plan was a success and Obama is Commander in Chief. If it had been Bush at the helm then I suspect your friend would be singing a different tune.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:01 PM
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7. hmm, that has the comment of singing a tune.
Edited on Mon May-02-11 05:02 PM by RandomThoughts
If it would have failed, I would be posting going against all the Carter comparisons.

And trying to bring things back to the focus of dismantling the security state, and consolidations that are causing problems.


Although if there was even a partial failure, if there would have been even a partial loss in such a 'mission', the images of CIA asset in Pakistan custody would have been a problem that they would have had to have worked out before announcing on some best political result day.

But anyways, we should stay on topic, I am due beer and travel money, and that has not been sent, and we need to dismantle the consolidations that are causing problems.

And as said in a thousand other posts, remove the patriot act and the causes of propaganda used against people.


Why isn't the news posting about dismantling the patriot act? Because the same group that ran the drumbeat to war, is running the drumbeat to Osama dead, without commenting on the end of war.

Note there have been some coverage on thoughtful discussion on correcting the fear agenda, but much of it is fluff on celebrations or celebrations of the attack, not the entire concept of the situation.


Right now they are talking about the 'attack' with no relevance to the meaning of the whole situation. Although showing Pakistan was involved, does help better show the larger connections to 9/11 and the meetings with ISS and US officials before the attack.

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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 10:19 PM
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20. "your friend would be singing a different tune"???
Are you kidding?
you'd be having to wipe his semen off the ceiling!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 04:54 PM
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4. Thank you for your concern.
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 04:54 PM
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5. Looks like another RWT.
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 04:57 PM
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6. Uhh...no! No RWT in this house. Just looking for some good ideas to zing this person with.
Thanks for assuming. And we know what assuming means.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:28 AM
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23. Ask him/her whether
the SEALS decided to do this themselves or whether they needed an order from the Commander. Then ask them if they would be singing the same tune if things had turned out badly (like for Carter). Would they honestly not blame the President? Then defriend the morons.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:02 PM
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8. Like the American soldiers
sicced on Saddam Hussein in a country we invaded for oil. Bush expended his chances and the soldiers achieved then too. Blair forced him into Afghanistan. The WH dropped the ball in directing the hunt in Tora Bora- unless then you want to BLAME the military.

Disgusting brat-like sniveling by the GOP.
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mailman82 Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:05 PM
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9. Ha
A right wing ass I used to be friends with said the same thing. Plus Obama didn't do anything, he said, He was playing golf, he said. I asked him about the time Bush was flying sorties over Iraq and Afghanistan. He said some more stupid stuff and I de friended him. He is a real asshole!
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:09 PM
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10. if the mission had failed, who would your "friend" blame?
If the President would take the blame, then he deserves the praise for success.
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Jeneral2885 Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:15 PM
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11. i have to
agree with you
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:18 PM
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12. Navy SEALs are sailors, not soldiers
:-)
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 05:23 PM
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13. An idiot on my friends list just posted this too. Guess it's going around. UGH.
x
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holiday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 09:15 PM
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14. anyone
anyone have a counter paragraph to go viral on facebook?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 09:20 PM
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15. Debated on whether or not to pay? Did I miss something????
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 11:15 PM
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21. Did you miss something? Yes, you sure did. Daily doses of Rush and Faux Noise.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 09:23 PM
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16. Who gave the order and created the plan? That was all Obama. They need a clue.
Edited on Mon May-02-11 09:24 PM by vaberella
You can marginalize all you want, but it won't change the facts.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 09:28 PM
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17. Omg - someone I know said the same thing! Must be a plot :/
Edited on Mon May-02-11 09:52 PM by jillan
I just unfriended her. She's not someone I really care about anyway.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 04:48 PM
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32. My wingnut sister posted the exact same thing. They're all too stupid to
write something themselves so they just repost shit that was preprepared by someone else. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 09:36 PM
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18. oh yeah, that one has really been making the rounds
i've been unfriended at least twice because i answered with this:

5 Responses to Right Wing Bitterness Over Obama Gettin’ Osama
http://www.politicususa.com/en/5-responses-bin-laden

i think EarlG posted that earlier

and this one:
6 Months After 9/11 Bush Said He Wasn’t Concerned About Bin Laden
http://www.politicususa.com/en/bush-bin-laden

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-11 09:57 PM
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19. Wow - the first link is wonderful. I bookmarked it!
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 08:57 AM
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25. Obama got Osama. I love it.
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ebbie15644 Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:17 AM
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22. I got that post too
I am hiding it for now, I am getting these type of posts from everyone. I posted last night something along the lines of Why can't everyone just be happy he is dead, get a life. I am guessing this stuff is being started on talk radio.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:54 AM
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24. My Advice - Close your facebook account.
It's a huge time sink, a terrible interface, FB is selling your info to highest bidder, do you really care that a guy you haven't seen since 4th grade just had triple by-pass, and aren't you shocked at how many Beck-loving, Bible-Thumping, regressives you encounter?
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:30 AM
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27. I've been hearing that too
Edited on Tue May-03-11 09:36 AM by LatteLibertine
they can't stand that OBL was taken out on President Obama's watch.

When President Obama came into office he told the CIA and military brass that killing OBL was a top priority. His orders were basically, "Get it done." That's all a President can really do, is to make something like that a priority and to devote resources to it. What's he supposed to do? Strap on a vest and roll with SEAL team 6?

Bush could have done the same thing and he >chose< not to. If he had issued the same orders any time from 2006 on it's likely we would have "found" OBL "hiding" in his large fortified compound in that suburb of Pakistan.

Bush didn't really care about getting him, and/or didn't have the balls to go around Pakistan. He knew, like President Obama knew, if you alert Pakistan before a strike OBL would be warned and moved.

As I understand it, OBL paid for that compound to be built and was possibly there since around 2005. Some are suggesting Pakistan had him under "house arrest".

So again, the short of it is, President Obama did all any president can do. 9/11 happened on Bush's watch and the death of OBL on Obama's.

They're also trying to spin this as if we needed information from torture gained under Bush. I seriously doubt that. Even OBL's neighbor's knew something was dreadfully wrong. We've found terrorists chilling in cities of Pakistan before. OBL was pretty much "hiding" in plain sight.


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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:47 AM
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28. Yep I've already had that posted twice on my FB wall from friends
but I'm not going to defriend them I just deleted it.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:51 AM
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29. Oh go huge a tree you hippie!
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Mrsadkins9399 Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 11:20 AM
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30. Sad that they can't think for themselves
They have to cut and paste their opinions. This just shows that FOX NEWS ROTS YOUR BRAIN.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 12:51 PM
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31. Jimmy Carter

will be so relieved...he's finally off the hook for Operation Eagle claw now that it has been determined Presidents have absolutely nothing to do with military operations.
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deerheadgal Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:09 PM
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33. My response to this...
...to my cousin's posting that on her FB page:
I respectfully disagree with part of this statement. I believe it is Congress that was debating on the military pay, in fact, some of the beloved GOP members of Congress would be more than happy to stiff our soldiers on their paychecks in order to assure Haliburton and the like could reap even more billions of taxpayer dollars at the expense of the military. The Obama administration has its flaws and faults, but I think this is an unfair meme. I am happy OBL is no longer with us, and I am hopeful this will lead to a safer and more compassionate world, which would truly be the victory in all this mess and years of suffering, death and sacrifice, a lot of which has been borne by our military.
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