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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 03:40 PM
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The Taliban wasn't behind 9/11, there's virtually no al Qaeda left in Afghanistan,
we're not going to invade Pakistan, and Osama bin Laden is dead. There remains no justifiable reason to keep our guys & gals in the Graveyard of Empires. BRING. THEM. HOME. NOW!
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 03:51 PM
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1. But they still want security for the oil pipeline
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:09 PM
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7. Not justifiable
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think Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:24 PM
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15. No more corporate welfare. Make the multi nationals pay
Edited on Mon May-09-11 05:24 PM by think
for their own damn security.

Sarcasm understood. Just wanted to rant :)
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Jeneral2885 Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 03:51 PM
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2. When you made a mess
you have to stay and clean it up.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 03:53 PM
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3. That's the problem basically. n/t
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Jeneral2885 Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 03:59 PM
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6. even if
it was the previous owner who started the mess
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:10 PM
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9. Is that a question?
Doesn't matter: the answer is NO.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 03:54 PM
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4. The timeline is already in place to start withdrawal in July. n/t
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 03:57 PM
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5. And end in 2014
Why???
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:10 PM
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8. We broke it and it will take time to fix it.
We have a moral obligation to not leave them in the shambles of war.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:16 PM
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10. It was already broken when we invaded
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:19 PM
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11. Are you suggesting we didn't make it worse? n/t
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:24 PM
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12. Worse than what?
It was tribal before we moved in, and it still is.
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:14 PM
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14. Right. And it'll stay that way.
And the Taliban---whom I am NO fan of---probably will retake power when we leave. But that's gonna happen anyway, be it tomorrow, next month, next year, 2050. We cannot build every nation, especially the ones that aren't really nations, but collections of tribes. Why spill even one more drop of American blood in a situation we will never make any lasting change on?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:26 PM
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13. I would suggest that we did not
The Taliban were executing people in soccer stadiums, they'd banned kite flying, music, and women holding jobs or being educated. They blew up the Bamiyan Bhuddas. They cheerfully harbored Al Qaeda and took OBL's money.

We didn't make it better, but it may not have been possible to make it worse.
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