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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 08:22 AM
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Obama doesn’t back down at AIPAC event

Obama doesn’t back down at AIPAC event

By Steve Benen

President Obama spoke to the AIPAC Policy Conference in Washington yesterday, and given his speech on the Middle East a few days prior, there was arguably more interest in his remarks than there otherwise would have been.

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He noted early on that even when the United States and Israel disagree, “the bonds between the United States and Israel are unbreakable and the commitment of the United States to the security of Israel is ironclad.”

And what of the 1967 borders as the starting point for peace talks? Obama reminded his audience that his vision is based on “broad outlines (that) have been known for many years, and have been the template for discussions between the United States, Israel, and the Palestinians since at least the Clinton administration.” He added that he “wasn’t surprised” by the controversy surrounding his remarks, but argued they needed to be stated anyway because the status quo is “unsustainable” and “the current situation in the Middle East does not allow for procrastination.”

“I said that the United States believes that negotiations should result in two states, with permanent Palestinian borders with Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, and permanent Israeli borders with Palestine. The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps — (applause) — so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states. The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.

“(I)t was my reference to the 1967 lines — with mutually agreed swaps — that received the lion’s share of the attention, including just now. And since my position has been misrepresented several times, let me reaffirm what ‘1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps’ means.

“By definition, it means that the parties themselves — Israelis and Palestinians — will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967. (Applause.) That’s what ‘mutually agreed-upon swaps’ means. It is a well-known formula to all who have worked on this issue for a generation. It allows the parties themselves to account for the changes that have taken place over the last 44 years. (Applause.) It allows the parties themselves to take account of those changes, including the new demographic realities on the ground, and the needs of both sides. The ultimate goal is two states for two people: Israel as a Jewish state and the homeland for the Jewish people — (applause) — and the State of Palestine as the homeland for the Palestinian people — each state in joined self-determination, mutual recognition, and peace. (Applause.)

“If there is a controversy, then, it’s not based in substance. What I did on Thursday was to say publicly what has long been acknowledged privately. I’ve done so because we can’t afford to wait another decade, or another two decades, or another three decades to achieve peace. (Applause.) The world is moving too fast. The extraordinary challenges facing Israel will only grow. Delay will undermine Israel’s security and the peace that the Israeli people deserve.”

Josh Marshall was impressed with Obama, lauding him for committing to policies “that will secure Israel’s future, even at the expense of opportunistic attacks and political controversy.” Philip Weiss, who writes about the Middle East from a progressive Jewish perspective, called it “a historic speech, maybe the most remarkable speech he has ever given.”
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 08:30 AM
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1. Very good, Mr. President.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 08:32 AM
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2. Every speech Obama has ever given is labeled as the "most remarkable speech he's ever given."
It's interesting how that plays out. In any event. I'm glad he broke it down for people, because misinterpretation is fundamental when people want to find something to punish the President over...even if it's inconsequential.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 08:34 AM
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3. It was an excellent speech and PBO didn't back off the controversy.
I liked it that he brought the whispers into the mainstream. They'll stay there now, and make it easier to go forward.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 08:59 AM
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4. "Obama doesn't back down..." - evidently AIPAC is not republicans lol nt
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:39 AM
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5. You'll never know how much your brilliant insight & indepth analysis is appreciated. (nt)
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:14 AM
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6. Some people thought he'd "cave" on this
When will the meme about him reflexively caves on everything finally be put to rest? I'm still waiting for the big Social Security/Medicare "cave" that some people believe is imminent........any....day.....now. :shrug:
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 11:03 AM
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7. What's to back down from?
I'm still waiting for the press morons to admit they all took the same bogus AP report and ran with it. There was nothing for the AIPAC folks to find objectionable.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:15 PM
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8. It was a good speech
Edited on Mon May-23-11 10:30 PM by fujiyama
and he reassured the crowd that he's "not against them". It was mindful of political reality, but showed some hint of idealism.

Personally I don't think much of what he's said is groundbreaking aside from actually explicitly mentioning the '67 borders as a starting point. I think most view it as a sensible starting point, but the reality is much more complex to create a viable and independent Palestinian state. I do like that Obama mentioned that it should be "contiguous", which is important. A "Palestine" cannot exist if there are Israeli roads cutting throughout the country connecting the settlements where resources (namely water) will be diverted from the Palestinians.

Unfortunately, if people thought it was tough to get settlers out of Gaza, it will be a complete nightmare getting them out of the West Bank. There are hundreds of thousands of them and many are well armed and well funded. They also have some powerful allies in this country, especially among the religious right. It would tear Israel apart in ways no conflict has before.

Now, this isn't necessarily the immediate concern of a US President, but it certainly is a top concern of whoever happens to be PM of Israel. We know that a RW PM like Netanyahu or any other Likudnik won't use force to pull the settlers out, because they're partly his base! I don't know the current political make up in Israel, but from what I have followed it has taken a shift rightward in recent years. I cannot imagine a Kadima or Labor government or coalition having the ability to do this either.

And the flip side is, who knows who they will be negotiating with on the Palestinian side? Fatah seems weak and their own political reality has dictated agreements with Hamas. Unless Hamas actually recognizes Israel, and that too as a Jewish state, well...Let's just say this conflict isn't going to resolved anytime soon.

Neither side has the will to make it happen. And ultimately a leader from one or both sides will likely be assassinated for making such concessions.
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