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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:31 PM
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Poll question: Are you bitter and clinging to the public option?
How many of us remember that characterization used by Obama at a meeting in San Francisco last year?

I wonder if people like Rahm and Axelrod are now characterizing opponents of the sellout to the health industry as being bitter and clinging to public option.

Let's take DU's pulse.

Are you bitter about the Lieberman compromise and still clinging to the public option and Medicare buy-in?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:32 PM
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1. Yes, I'm bitter.
But I don't think going back to the status quo is the right thing to do, either.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:33 PM
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2. I'm bitter and clinging to the delusion that this administration was somehow
going to be any better than the last few we've had.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:33 PM
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3. Like God and Guns.
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 06:34 PM by SIMPLYB1980
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:33 PM
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4. Yes
I'm bitter that they could not even keep in a fairly weak compromise public option. And I am bitter that they are going to force people to buy pribvate insurance they cannot afford -- without even any cost controls.

I could have lived with a weak "starter" bill. But i am bitter that they are about to do more harnm than good.


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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:35 PM
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5. Lanny Davis is on Big Ed's show - supposedly he's called the left "bitter." nt
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:40 PM
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6. I'm bitter that they didn't scare the Republicanites but good by insisting on single payer
and not backing down. Then a strong public option would have been the compromise position, but only if the Republicans had agreed to scrub all the floors in the Capitol building with toothbrushes and never call Obama inaccurate names again. :evilgrin:

The public option and the Medicare buy-in as offered were no great shakes, so I'm not sorry to see them go. I do resent the mandate, though.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:40 PM
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7. No. I thought the bill sucked even with a "public option" (a shiny trinket to get braindead morons..
on board)

:)

Here is a funny thought. If the Democrats came out of the gates with JUST this, what percent of people would of told them to fuck off? Now, people have too much invested in this, emotionally and otherwise, to tell em to get lost. If they came out of the gates with this, they would of been laughed at
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:03 PM
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8. No, I'm bitter and clinging to at least some choice and cost controls
We get jack apple shit except for mandates and to pat ourselves on the back for maybe covering people with insurance they can't really afford to use. Everyone else also probably will be unable to afford to pay to use the coverage they are assigned.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:18 PM
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9. Bitter, yes, but I've never clung to the public option
There are other avenues which they NEVER seriously considered (i.e. TRULY regulating the insurance industry to take profit out of the equation). Once they dismissed the idea of single payer and dismissed the idea of regulating the insurance industry, all that was left to keep the public from being forced to suckle at the teat of the insurance industry was a robust public option open to all. What they came up with was never "robust", was not open to everyone and they even decided against allowing states to pursue single payer on their own. Still, I reluctantly accepted their final compromise because the Medicare buy-in was at least something that looked like it could be expanded upon in the future. Then they took that away and are still looking to gut the bill further. So, yeah, I'm done with accepting their compromises. They have no interest in any compromise that might actually be beneficial to the public. Instead, they are looking after the interests of an industry that would happily allow millions of people to die because keeping them alive has a negative impact on their bottom-line. If that is what you call clinging, then I guess I'm clinging.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:55 PM
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10. I bitterly cling to universal health care, which this bill is not
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