The next President will be

Gallup:

The repub minds are consistently curious.

The hypothetical candidate people are saying they'd vote for is whatever they want them to be.

"If the election was held today, Obama would LOSE".

Obama versus Generic Republican ... Obama loses.

He beats all NAMED Republicans buy wide margins.

And yet, CNN said ... "he'd lose if the vote was today".

Assisted by the corporations who buy the voting machine "support" contracts from local governments.
We're not the same America we were even 20 years ago. Too many beat-down, stressed out voters don't have enough time or energy to care anymore about what a candidate really stands for and what their track record really shows them to be.

And much as I support the man, President Obama has not been either helping himself or the American People when it comes to dealing with national political conflict. He's okay on the nuts and bolts obvious situations, but he's not shown himself to be decisive enough when it comes to serving the American People - too many hack "advisors" have his ear - and he apparently continues to forget that he's on the wrong "team" when it comes to favor from the corporations.
This isn't community organizing, or local politics anymore. There are wealthy forces out there who really don't care if 40 million people and their families in America will be relegated to being pretty much under-or un-employed on a perminant basis. And they can't be negotiated with, nor will they accept any compromises - because - why should they?


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Looks like he'll have to go further to the right and give them more to get reelected.

It is like he wants to be a 1-term president. I am still waiting for him to look at the situation and move left...even just a tiny bit.
A study showed, based on activity, that Regan, H.W., and Nixon are considered Left of Obama.

If Obama loses it will only be because of what Truman said: "Give the people a choice between a Republican and a Democrat who talks like a Republican and they’ll choose the Republican every time."

Either we need Campaign Finance Reform to finally make both parties stop working for Wall Street or we need a 3rd Party that represents the people.

Obama for the lack of a better term has become "Bush Lite". I literally think hes scared to move to the left because of the current political climate of hard right politics. Honestly, he needs to stop being so bi-partisan and push a more liberal agenda, it would fire up his disappointed base (I.E: The first time voters and his grassroot supporters.) It's been so frustrating to see him pandering to the ideologues of the GOP yet he barely pushes any liberal or leftist agenda. Stop pandering to the corporate elite and the GOP and return to the middle class, look how it worked for Franklin Roosevelt.

I agree, wish they'd take your suggestion. Welcome to DU, TheSuperLefty! It's great to have you with us! :hi:

They have been hoodwinked into the party because of social issues and into thinking that trickle-down works. The middle class is divided and the elites siphon off more and more behind our backs in the confusion.

felt Obama was on foreign policy before bin Laden was gotten, and a few DUers were claiming that the reason the poll was taken then (from Jan. to April) was because "June isn't over." So June STILL isn't over, yet they're taking a poll and calling it the "June update"? Seems like they poll when it's convenient to get the result they want.

but romney wont get past the primaries

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He's in better shape now than most of his recent two-term predecessors (with the possible exception of George W. Bush though his poll numbers were inflated by 9/11 and invading Iraq around this time 8 years ago), the public still (largely) blames Bush (and by extension Republican policies) for the rotten economy, and the Republicans really don't have a candidate (yet) that they're very excited about, and many remotely *capable* contenders like Daniels aren't running in 2012. There's also plenty of time for the economy to improve between now and next year (it could get a lot worse too, I suppose, but I don't see how outside of another major collapse). I don't like to sound too certain on things like this but my basic prediction is that unless something spectacularly bad happens politically to President Obama and/or the Democratic Party (and nobody will even care about Weinergate by this time next year), President Obama will get another term. The real question for me is whether or not the Dems will win back the House and keep the Senate.

He/She just might be able to beat Obama because He/She would be the embodiment of everything we want in a candidate.

The perfect candidate, if you will.

Unfortunately, they're stuck with this...

But then go on to win a general election? Do you have anything to back this up or is this only your wishful thinking?

Because frankly, while I understand some (emphasis on some) progressives are done with Obama, politically, he's at better advantage today than Carter, Reagan and Clinton were in their third year of a four-year term. Even then, the one who eventually lost, Jimmy Carter, faced a challenge from the left and still, even with approval ratings in the 30s and 40s throughout 1980, managed to win the nomination in a romp - against a candidate with a family name that every American knows and was one of the most, at the time, influential senators in the country.

So you're telling me, knowing history and the fact that even damaged incumbents still manage to fend off primary challenges, that Obama would be DOA if a progressive decided to throw his/her hat into the ring?

Please, just for discussions sake, who is this great and all powerful progressive?

I "personally" am done with the conservative DLC New Dem segment of the Democratic Party. I will vote for Progressive candidates every chance I get. If there were to be a Progressive primary challenger to Obama, I "personally" WOULD vote for that Progressive candidate. I could care less how you, or anyone else for that matter, decides to vote for and why, so you can take your condescending attitude and stick it where the sun don't shine.

It asked who you THOUGHT would be the next president.

So, again, why do you think if a progressive entered the race he/she would win?

I can't predict who would win any more than you could, BUT I know who I would vote for...and that's what I was saying. At this point in time, I would take ANY generic Progressive over Obama, or over any other conservative DLC New Dem candidate.

That's why it's called a prediction. It might not come true, but you can predict all you want - just as long as you can back up that claim.

The fact no incumbent president has ever lost the nomination to a primary challenge in modern American history pretty much indicates to me that if a progressive were to run, they would lose to Obama and not even make the general.

If a progressive decides to run in the general and you vote for them, so be it. But just remember, you won't be welcomed on DU at that time - since we'll all be supporting Obama in 2012.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

President Obama is beating just about all of them by double-digits.

We need the house back with true progressives, and to keep hold on the senate.

If one branch is lost, it will be more of the same ol shit.

I would love to say, after looking at the potential republicans, that there is no way that Americans could elect any of them. That being said, I remember two terms of the Idiot. If the evil spawn of George and Barbara can serve 8 years, I have no doubt that Americans are stupid enough to put a Bachmann, Palin, Romney, or Pawlenty in office.

Considering that Obama can't run for a third term, it will be some other Democrat who gets elected next President instead.

But if you ask them about actual Republicans...