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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:55 PM
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Quick!!! Who can make any case for this crappy bill without pitching 31 million covered
Tell me about the affordable care they will get.

Tell me about the price controls.

Tell me about all the choices we get that will unleash market forces to lower prices.

Tell me about how people with the so called pre-existing conditions will have affordable access.

Tell me how anyone is actually in a better position to really get any care.

Tell me about no caps.

Tell me how no one will ever find themselves without coverage they have paid for.

I'm thinking it can't be done in any compelling and substantive way.


2,000 pages of bill and a trillion dollars every 6 years or so and we only have one thing to talk about-coverage for 31 million but without anything to ensure they or anyone else can actually afford to seek care.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:59 PM
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1. Even if they can afford the insurance, they can still get their claims denied. nt
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:01 PM
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2. There will be a nice Rose Garden bill Signing Ceremony.
And unicorns will run free on the North Lawn.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:02 PM
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3. Uhhh. It wouldn't cover any of those 31 million until 2014? Whoops. Hey, that's HARD! n/t
:)

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:08 PM
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4. It wouldn't kick in until 2014 and doesn't limit what insurance companies can charge /nt
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:13 PM
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5. The Emancipation Proclamation Freed Nobody
It took a couple of years and a half a war.

Just sayin'
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 08:04 AM
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10. Are you advocating civil war?
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 08:36 AM
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14. Yes. That's Exactly It. You Got It Right On The Very First Try.
:eyes:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 08:38 AM
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15. Cool, me too.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:34 PM
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6. you mean who gives a damn about the 31 million?
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:38 PM
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8. No, I mean what is the point of the rest of the exercise?
Roll out some subsidies and call it a day because the rest of it is worthless and may well make things worse for most people.

There is not and will not be any reform other than mandates for a product most people won't be able to even shop around.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:38 PM
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7. 31 million is huge. And there are no caps despite the misinformation saying otherwise.
And pre-existing conditions must be covered. At less than they are now when they are.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 08:04 AM
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 08:07 AM
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12. Bullshit. You don't get coverage if you have bad credit n/t
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 08:06 AM
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11. Higher insurance company stock equals better economy.
woo hoo.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 08:27 AM
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13. Insurance doesn't guarantee health care. Those 31 million can still find themselves SOL.
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