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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 11:30 AM Original message |
Obama Ignores Dem Choices for Texas U.S. Attorneys; Chooses GOP Favorites |
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Stuart G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. How can he pick Republicans?? please explain. thanks. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. He doesn't have to pick people of his own party. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I think the question was more along the lines of "Why on earth would Obama pick Republicans??" |
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Stuart G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I am well aware of the Consitution...but why would he choose Repuks over Democrats? |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Oh..."Why" is a much different story than "How." |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. So why did we bother electing him? |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. Good question... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Article II., Section 1: |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. It doesn't say he picked Republicans. nt |
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Marnie (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
124. Becasue he is a closet Republican. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. This is the kind of thing that makes you wonder if the prez is just another... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Yes, that's why Pres. Obama passed Wall Street reform with his buddy Mitt Romney's blessing. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. That strong Wall Street "reform" |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Here are the facts about Wall Street reform, which The Chamber of Commerce spent billions opposing: |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. How does your link refute the truth that the bill is weak? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. What are the specific reasons for your objection to these nominees? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. LOL. It was weakened BECAUSE Wall St. and the Chamber spent millions |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Again, what are the specific reasons for your objection to these nominees? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
64. Again, try answering other people's questions before deflecting with questions of your own: |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Why are you avoiding answering questions that directly relate to YOUR OWN OP SUBJECT? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Ah, you want OTHER people to chase YOUR red herrings |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Um, I am staying on the OP topic you started. Still avoiding the questions, I see. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
63. How come you're not answering the question? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Did you know one of the attorneys nominated by Obama might become TX first openly gay justice? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. That's nice. What about the question posed to you? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Guess you can't very well object to potential first openly gay justice from TX, eh? |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 07:41 AM Response to Reply #72 |
95. Guess you can't defend your own "evidence". |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 07:41 AM Response to Reply #95 |
113. "That's the image I get from your illiterate use of the smilie." |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
122. Yeah, I do. I don't care who anyone fucks. His being gay changes little. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. For some here, principles and philosophy don't matter. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. That's ridiculous. Moderate Republicans have positions that are virtually the same as moderate Dems. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 07:35 AM Response to Reply #81 |
93. So you would support moderate republicans over lefty Democrats? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 07:56 AM Response to Reply #93 |
98. He made it very clear. Glad to know its laid on the table. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 07:04 AM Response to Reply #93 |
110. I always had my suspicions about him, but now he just openly admitted to them. n/t |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 07:16 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. dupe. |
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Hand_With_Eyes (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #81 |
103. I think you have it backwardish |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
47. Thanks - you beat me to it. |
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vroomvroom (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Obama meetings with Wall Street CEOs -- Saying "see i didn't change anything for u guys" |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Is that why The Chamber of Commerce and the Koch Brothers support his policies so much? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Why the 'sarcasm' smiley? The Chamber of Commerce really does applaud Obama's efforts |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. The Chamber of Commerce and Wall Street spent billions fighting Wall Street reform. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. The Chamber is "right" about sending even more American jobs overseas? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. That's a strawman fallacy. Quote where I said that and detail the terms of the trade agreements. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. No strawman at all in my post, but you illustrated the concept beautifully in your response |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Wrong. I asked questions you have yet to answer. ---> |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Question 2) The link which provided the answers for you was already provided |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. For the 3rd time, what are the specific reasons for your objection to these nominees? |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 07:43 AM Response to Reply #41 |
96. For about the tenth, what is your response to post 23? |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
123. How the fuck is upholding a government dictate that citizens be forced to purchase |
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Hand_With_Eyes (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-03-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
128. It must really suck having to defend stuff like this |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #28 |
94. Show me where you get your figures. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
112. The crazy 'far right' is just out there |
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Marnie (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
125. Spot On |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
11. Raises the question is BHO even further to the right than thought practically |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. What are the specific reasons for your objection to these nominees? |
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KeepItReal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
16. What a nice gesture. And the TX GOP Senators will return the favor how? |
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vroomvroom (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Easy: By Demanding he Kill Medicare. Giving Obama the cover to go along with them. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Wow... sounds like an Agatha Christie plot! |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
89. yes & now this: over in the UK the Labour Party is acting weak, helpless, |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 07:46 AM Response to Reply #89 |
114. International fascism. |
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vroomvroom (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
17. No Surprises -- Analysis showed Obama is More Right-Leaning than Regan, GW, and Nixon. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. "Analysis" by whom? You? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 07:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
115. By anyone with their head out of the sand........nt |
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vroomvroom (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. Good Luck with ELIZABETH WARREN |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. You do know they've been good friends since Harvard and she admires Pres. Obama, right? |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Does HE admire HER? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. WTF do you think he's doing now? But he can't circumvent Senate rules, can he? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. He could nominate her to the position. What is he waiting for? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I'll let her respond to you in her own words... |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
69. Why not a recess appointment? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I already answered that. Did you not pay attention? McConnell pledged to block them. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. McConnell doesn't have squat. If and when the Senate takes a recess, |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Wrong. Go back into the archives and read up on what McConnell did during the Memorial Day recess. |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
90. I doubt it now, VERY much |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
83. Hmmmm.....Wonder what Mayor Bloomberg would do? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
36. America is and will always remain a center right nation. I applaud Obama's courageous centrism. n/t |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Centrism means |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. FDR's original SS plan didn't cover most women and minorities. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. How did it exclude African-Americans? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Exclusions exempted nearly half of the working population aka. most women and blacks. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Liberals dont understand that we have to imitate the bad things FDR did... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Mega-wealthy FDR was no liberal to the leftists of his day. Quite the opposite. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Exactly- we must tear down FDR and other fake liberals so people will understand |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. That must be why President Obama has been favorably compared to FDR by top presidential historians. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #57 |
78. Glad we agree. FDR was a CENTRIST. He hated the professional left too. |
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Hand_With_Eyes (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #78 |
116. Colbert, is that you? |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. and centrism STILL means |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Did you know one of the attorneys nominated by Obama is openly gay? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. Shame on the far left for wanting a Party approved leftist instead of a gay GOP pick. |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 11:11 PM Response to Reply #80 |
91. oooh quickly go over to the thread asking what is a 'far leftist' since you seem to |
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Hand_With_Eyes (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #91 |
118. Far Leftist means anyone left of center |
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Hand_With_Eyes (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #66 |
117. It stands for nothing when they have an R next to their name |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. self-delete |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Liberals will never make centrists compromise their core values and beliefs. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Independents were the reason "we got shellacked" in 2010. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I blame the liberals and the professional left for all centrist failures. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I blame lame rhetoric for putting me to sleep. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Sleep tight, sweet hobo. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #54 |
104. You're not sleepy, it's a 'shtick-coma'. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 07:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
99. CLINTON! |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
82. At least you're open and honest |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. I am a PROUD, happy centrist. N/t |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
58. Interesting twist |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. bwahhh hhaaaa haa haa |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
85. LOL! Just like they did with Vitter and Lindsey Graham. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #85 |
107. ironic |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
60. Obama to nominate first openly gay US Attorney in Texas. |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. nope doesn't fit all all....n/t |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
86. LOL! Next thing you know, the far left will have a problem with Lindsey Graham! |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #86 |
108. will you be here all week? |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
76. If I recall, Obama said he would work with Republicans. The two senators from Texas are... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. And he NEVER said he would work with the far left or not extend the Bush tax cuts. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
84. At least Saldana might help Dallas deal with John Wiley Price |
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marlakay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-11 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
88. He keeps thinking if he is nice to them they will be nice to him |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Please do research on the attorney's mentioned. You'd be surprised.n/t |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #92 |
101. He snubbed his own party recommendations. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Folded?! You really look at this as folding? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 07:47 AM Response to Original message |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
100. Obama folds again. He could have nominated 2 from each party. |
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bornskeptic (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #100 |
120. Yes, he could have nominated two from each party. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-01-11 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
106. The tent's too damn big. |
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109. Great |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #109 |
119. Because he doesn't want to be accused of playing politics like the last |
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bornskeptic (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-02-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #109 |
121. The reasoning is that he wants to fill positions that need to be filled. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-03-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #121 |
127. Then leave the fucking positions vacant. The only reasonable course is to remind the Senators they |
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