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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 03:58 PM Original message |
If Obama's successes/accomplishments were acknowledged by his progressive critics, I'd feel. . . |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. So what are his MAJOR progressive achievements? |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. ^^^^^^^ TomClash ^^^^^^^ proves my point. . .LOL |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Yep, perfect example. "There are none so blind...." nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Deleted sub-thread |
Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Right out of the gate. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Only if you could have answered the question |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. It would be a waste of time. You guys will not acknowledge any of it |
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daa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. Becuase there is nothing to acknowledge nt |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
79. Considering you can't even try to answer it, should you be surprised? (nt) |
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Hand_With_Eyes (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:32 AM Response to Reply #30 |
93. You are dodging it |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:45 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. I'm dodging it? I have posted his accomplishments a number of times in the past. . . |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 08:23 AM Response to Reply #96 |
101. We've been asking for _major_ accomplishments. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Saving Detroit, health care reform, repealing DADT. . . |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Considering the easy targets you set up, yes. |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
58. Exactly |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
57. Uh, not really |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. DADT. |
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The Big Vetolski (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Mandated health insurance coverage for pre-existing conditions is |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. Deleted message |
The Big Vetolski (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Well, next time the Eagles play the Cowboys, Go Dallas... |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. Interesting response .... |
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The Big Vetolski (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. "Its clearly not America." |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
69. Back to the overweight part .... |
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The Big Vetolski (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. No. You do not understand. Health INSURANCE should never be |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:06 AM Response to Reply #84 |
92. Obama didn't invent the current health care system. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. DADT is still not done, despite being 100% up to the White House now. (nt) |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. It has been repealed and will go in effect in a matter of weeks. n/t |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
80. And the delay is because........ |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. It's because the Pentagon agreed to go along with it |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #86 |
100. The pentagon works for the White House |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Deleted message |
JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
68. So its not going to end? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. It was entirely up to the executive branch to end as soon as Congress passed the repeal |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:04 AM Response to Reply #78 |
90. Then you aren't paying attention. nt |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
74. The military has just said they will follow the most recent court ruling |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. The military works for the White House. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #24 |
104. A Federal Court ruled it unconstitutional |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. A federal court ruled it unconstitutional _again_. |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. How about everything on this site? |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. You and your "lists" of "accomplishments" .... |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. People who are pissed about one specific thing |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. One issue voters |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I didn't say they where irrelevant, I said they where stupid. /nt |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Calling people stupid is a great way to get their vote. (nt) |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Well lucky for me, I'm not running for an office. /nt |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. I used to think single-issue voters were all Republican. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Me too. |
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The Big Vetolski (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. So what? None of that has done anything to improve the Dude's |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Unless your joking |
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The Big Vetolski (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. I'm not joking. And the OP has few points other than some weird |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Deleted message |
The Big Vetolski (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. ME? A right-winger? No, it's not just about ME. It's about 90% of |
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nosmokes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. The question was*major* and progessive* acheivement and Obama's average |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Under Obama the dems had 60 votes in the Senate for 49 days. |
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nosmokes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. If you think the office of POTUS doesn't carry any sway thein I suggest you |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
59. So I open this and get |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
52. Was your goal to illustrate the very point of the OP? |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 05:44 AM Response to Reply #52 |
88. Uh, no |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 09:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
73. Here ya go |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
82. don't you know? His healthcare that will kick in in 2014 and |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. Recommended. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm with you. It's as if they refuse to acknowledge that the word "progressive" has it's roots |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
64. But being progressive implies PROGRESS, not INCREMENTALISM |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. knr nt |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. I am always suspect of those who launch into sermons on the |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. that's a very interesting statement |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. ...more than interesting, |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
16. Here's long partial LIST of what Obama has done since January 20, 2009 |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. And....another OP about DU instead of |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
19. I've seen plenty of support and acknowledgement |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
23. Any exercise in ignorance detracts from credibility. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. you have arbitrarily divided folks into "supporters" and "detractors' |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
49. Yeah, right. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. We're probably better off |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Oh, fine... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
85. and generalizing about |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
32. This is 100% pure bullshit..... |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. This IS NOT 100% BULLSHIT, take your ball and go home. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. What gave you the idea he was going for single payer? |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. You should have been listening to what Obama said during the 2008 campaign |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. +100 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. Deleted message |
Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. You are trying to change the subject. We were talking about what Obama 'said' he would do. n/t |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
60. These are my sentiments |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
75. How did you know he would do those things |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
38. Rec'd |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
40. K&R. And if they don't say the things you said they say, they just ignore the |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:05 AM Response to Reply #40 |
91. Well, some of those threads include |
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toddwv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
44. The sheeple have been told by the MSM (corporate-owned btw) that they MUST hate Obama. |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
46. Sorry, getting the girls a puppy doesn't balance out |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
53. Real unemployment is more than 15% and increasing |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
56. I feel pretty much the same way myself. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
65. The list of his achievements is a mile long and one sixteenth of an inch deep. n/t |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #65 |
83. He does what he can, as long as he doesn't have to engage in conflict or... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
70. I hear you on that.. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
71. They are acknowledged - at least here - at the time they happen. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
72. they have not been enough |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-10-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. What if this is as good as it gets? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:42 AM Response to Original message |
87. I have been a critic of President Obama, but I have acknowledged his accomplishments. nt |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #87 |
94. +1. Hurts there message so they just ignore what they don't want to see. |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
89. You're gonna have to learn to get past that, then. |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
95. I'd feel the same way if the apologists would acknowledge some of his weaknesses. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:47 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. A few thngs: |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:59 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Bullshit. The OP said his critics, which I am certainly one, so it's most definitely about me. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 08:02 AM Response to Reply #98 |
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CrazyBob (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
102. Did he do the most he could do? |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
105. There are many that would rather be right than do right |
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