“Obama lit him up. Cantor sat in stunned silence,”

Drama Obama! :)







and also this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMDmx3js5oI

cold." (Paraphrased from Richard Wolffe on today's meeting.)

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be he would just be another hothead.

but,
when a thoughtful gentleman loses it, ermm, maybe once every couple years or so - you pay attention.

I never for a moment thought Obama was afraid of confrontation. He just has a much longer fuse than most of us other mortals.

until he's ready because assertion stands the best chance of actually getting something.

Very "lawyerly" - in my experience.

Obama being "ice cold" sounds like he was just saying something with the same look he had in his eyes that he had while watching the bin Laden take-out.

Cantor should check his pantaloons, I think there may be some dampness there

there would be more than some dampness there-something more stinky. :D

Often the effect is giving you the impression of someone who would shoot you in the head as soon as look at you.

see how I did that...they would do it on a grander scale....I believe his patience and his cool headedness is drivign them bonkers because they don't know when to expect things like today.


This is all good...

Heard part of Pelosi's presser a bit earlier. She commented that Obama has shown more patience than Job :-). She made some excellent comments and she definitely seems to have O's back.

Hey, at least you admit he's mortal.

As Rome burns, many flail to find justifications to characterize him as other-worldly, while he fights to hold the center. By doing so, he abandons the left and lets things be drawn further to the right. Big deal, though: he's not from the left.

Yeah, yeah, people will bellyache that he never said he was, but he slyly accepted the support and sustained the belief that he was. Now it's a rearguard action against the reactionaries, and they play for keeps. Maybe he'll call them out for being neo-feudalists, but I'm not holding my breath.

Like Bill Clinton, he still thinks they'll like him someday.

at 5:15 ish

Loud mouths are never taken seriously. It's the cool collected ones...when they explode...everyone takes cover.

video taped it with their cell phone. :evilgrin:

"deals" and meetings with the Rethugs. They know all about the conversations they have. And in those confrontations, Obama has no spine; he just caves without blinking.

*rolling my eyes at the tomfoolery*

hate that little creep. wish someone had a pic of his gaping stupid look after Obama scared the living shit out of the little turd.

“Cantor’s account of tonight’s meeting is completely overblown. For someone who knows how to walk out of a meeting, you’d think he’d know it when he saw it,” a Democratic aide said. “Cantor rudely interrupted the president three times to advocate for short-term debt ceiling increases while the president was wrapping the meeting. This is just more juvenile behavior from him and Boehner needs to rein him in, and let the grown-ups get to work. “

On exiting the room, Obama said that “this confirms the totality of what the American people already believe” about Washington, according to a Democratic official familiar with the negotiations, and that officials are “too focused on positioning and political posturing” to make difficult choices.

His arrogance is absolutely stunning. I am so glad the President is checking him.

I also think that Boehner has had it up to here with Cantor and is now letting him run amok just so that everyone can see what a jerk he is. Cantor's about to be his own undoing.

and smoke his smokes.
His caucus could give a fuck less what he thinks and his buddy Cantor has drawers full of sharp knives ready for his (Boenher's) back.

uncomfortable!

And then let him know that you have shown it to a few fellow Republicans who agree with me that Cantor is an idiot. And blackmail the hell out of him.

But then again, too many of the Republicans would probably think that Cantor was awesome.

Can't say how pleased I am to hear the pres is kicking ass but does this mean I'm cheering on cuts to Medicare and social security? Cause that just seems so wrong......

Maybe alcohol will help?

in the case of Medicare, you will see that health care professionals will have a significant role in what is cut and how, so as to avoid damaging services/care. Remember, Senator Bernie Sanders says there is good reason to consider cuts to payments, as distinct from services. Payments, such as, the 14% above costs that HMOs receive, for example. There's lots being written about this as "Medicare Reform", which Sanders supports btw. Google it and you will find discussions coming from Physicians for a National Health Program, The Brookings Institute (the closest thing there is in the U.S. to a non-Right-wing think tank) and The Robert Woods Johnson Foundation, amongst others.

Haven't started reading up on Social Security changes yet, but will start posting once I do.

He speaks with all the direct clarity that this situation calls for, so why reword him?

Two short months ago, Sanders introduced 'Medicare For All' legislation, so that is the sort of reform he supports, and here is a link for those who like to hear Bernie from Bernie:
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/313-17/5892-bernie-sanders-introduces-single-payer-healthcare-legislation

ion base, $7.50 @ mo, feed. Perhaps the problem with that source is, though, that I have seen uninformed right-wingish attacks on Thom Hartmann on this board lately, so my guess is that source, even if people subscribed to it, will not be good enough for some people.

If people care, they should LEARN how to go after information themselves. We're on the internet for god's sake! Use that information that IS available to you to make up their own minds, instead of seeing some DU-ers, who quite possibly know little or nothing specific about Medicare, screaming about "cuts" and then practically everyone here starts quacking and getting all buzzed on their own juices to try to take this President down, with little or no regard for how doing so will further entrench economic injustice in our "health" "care" systems, very definitely at the cost of many people's lives.

945 comments from a lot of ignorant people!

Appalling ignorance and childish too. I won't be going there again any time soon.

Just tune in to Fox. That's what you'll hear.

enough. Go figure.

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They want to endlessly to dump the blame from the the Bush and GOP spending policies onto President Obama.

Wish I could have seen that! I despise that little prick, and would love to see the President put that asshole in his place.

Boxer should have "Bitch Slapped" him

it happened now. Fer cripes' sake, everyone's future Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security, 'full faith and credit of the United States' are in the hand of that little puke? No f-ing way.

GO PRESIDENT OBAMA!

only way to get into his little brain is that way.

Cantor looks like he was born with a terminal case of diarrhea.
He's the one that always looks agitated.

Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

If I were in the president's shoes I would have come over my desk and strangled the crap out of that weasel Cantor.

Obama needs to keep this up.

paper quotes McConnell throughout talking about how bad this is for the GOP during an election season. "If we don't raise the debt ceiling, Obama is going to blame us, with success, and this will be terrible for us going into an election season."

Getting relected is all they care about. They don't give a shit about the state of the nation.

And demand that Cantor release his plan for how to cut $2.4 trillion. Its also time to demand Cantor pass it through the House. The GOP has the nerve now to demand that Obama come up with the cuts while the GOP hides from the heat. Meanwhile, the GOP doesn't even have nearly enough votes to pass what they are advocating. 80 to 120 GOP House members refuse to vote for any increase under any circumstances. Those members should release their plan for how the government can get by on 60% of its current revenue.

Michelle's gotta love this! :blush:

It's a good thing I was alone and not drinking anything when I read this! As it is, I'm getting some strange looks from my feline housemates. :rofl:

Holy crap. Thank you!!

Totally understand about the felines. The looks I get when I laugh is either "you better not be laughing at me" or "what the hell is wrong with you? I was NAPPING!"

I'd love to see Obama's ice rage. I'll bet he's good at it!

"Never give a wimp a taste of power." Cantor just proved it, once again. He had the nerve to interrupt the President three times as Obama was trying to close the meeting, plus made demands of him. Now Cantor's peeing his pants!

So glad Obama pulled a Darth Vader on him: "I find your lack of faith disturbing."

this is hardball though, and they need to be able to demonstrate their willingness to make "steep cuts" - even SS and Medicare. This is what it takes to prove to people you are serious these days.

...we'll talk. Up until then it's all sophistry/kabuki. Debt/deficit reduction that does not eviscerate the poor/middle class, reining in military spending and a real increase in revenue from the top/corporations will make me a believer. Otherwise, I remain skeptical of the "Orator in Chief".

the bully pulpit! You got it and that's still not enough! Ugh!

Cal Cantor. Call McConnell. Call Boehner. Pressure on these guys gets Obama's back.

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with sniveling comments....Cantor thinks he is superior.

“It was incredible. If the public saw Obama he would win in a landslide.”

If ONLY the public could see it. If only. I'm assuming the president wants to be re-elected, so wouldn't it be smart to let the public see some of this? All we get is hearsay. I'm glad he located his spine, though I'm sorry it took so long.

it amuses me that the same people who say "oh, we can't trust an unnamed source" are trusting an unnamed source.

This must be difficult for him.

I really can't visualize Eric "Eddie Munster" Cantor and Barack Obama having an argument of any kind. An argument suggests a fair fight of some sort. The only analogy I can think of in a Cantor vs. Obama duel is when Mr. Myxiciplic used to "fight" Superman. It wasn't like he was fighting with Braniac or Lex Luthor. It was just a comic relief contest.

to destroy the US economy along with millions of lost jobs and trillions more in lost assets.