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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 05:45 PM
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Last Week Obama: "Obama tells leaders he'd veto short-term debt hike"
But then again, that was last week.

More to the point, this is Obama we're talking about. 'Nuff said.



http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/170313-obama-tells-congressional-leaders-he-will-not-sign-short-term-debt-extension

Obama tells leaders he'd veto short-term debt hike, lays out two other options

By Sam Youngman - 07/08/11 10:16 AM ET

President Obama made it clear he would veto a short-term hike to the debt ceiling, expressing as much at a Thursday meeting with congressional leaders where three options for the size and scope of a package were discussed, according to a source familiar with the talks.

The option preferred by the president and Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is to go big and approve a deficit-reduction package as large as $4 trillion, the source said.

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The short-term option of a $1 trillion cut in spending and hike to the debt ceiling is unpopular with Obama and Boehner, whose conference would then have to vote more than once to raise the debt ceiling before the 2012 election.

Obama made it clear he would veto that option, which had been floated by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and other Republicans, according to the source familiar with the talks.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:10 PM
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:14 PM
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2. "this is Obama we're talking about. 'Nuff said"
Edited on Wed Jul-20-11 06:16 PM by Cali_Democrat
Ouch.

The UK Guardian has Obama pegged as well....

"The Obama administration doesn’t have the spine to pursue Murdoch."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1533196&mesg_id=1533196

Even people in other countries see what Obama is all about.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:21 PM
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3. "The Obama administration doesn’t have the spine to pursue Murdoch."
Why should he bother? the British have the "spine" to get him.

The premise of these articles are so idiotic: Insult the President into action.

"If News Corp was a liberal outfit, it would have been shredded by now"

<...>

You can bet that a George W Bush administration would respond with savage pleasure. It would use the situation like this to punish its political opponents. One would expect the same from any of the plausible Republican candidates for president in 2012. And Republicans in Congress would be frothing at the mouth to ensure that the company paid dearly for its transgressions.

Indeed, in this parallel universe, the executives of the media company might well have been hauled before courts, congressional committees and grand juries already. And Fox News would be leading the calls for termination of this imaginary company's broadcasting licenses, which surely would be in jeopardy.

The Obama administration doesn't seem terribly interested, despite news stories suggesting that an investigation has begun, and his party doesn't have anything like enough spine to force the issue. The Democrats stand for essentially nothing, as they've shown repeatedly in recent years. To be fair, moreover, Washington has other issues on its table – the debt ceiling, for example, which threatens to blow an even bigger hole in the struggling economy.

One partial caveat: if it turns out that News Corp employees hacked the voicemails of the families and/or victims of the 9/11 attacks, the company's American woes will surge. Even the Republicans who count Fox News as an essential ally in the war on liberalism would demand some kind of sanction.

<...>


Oh yeah, the President will find a spine if 9/11 families are victims. No doubt, the same goes for military families.

You see, the President doesn't give a shit about anyone else.

Moronic!
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:31 PM
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6. Why should he bother?
Edited on Wed Jul-20-11 06:31 PM by Cali_Democrat
Newscorp is an American company and may have engaged in nefarious actions against US citizens.

A company which wants to destroy the Obama Presidency.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:40 PM
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8. "A company which wants to destroy the Obama Presidency."
Edited on Wed Jul-20-11 06:41 PM by ProSense
So? The President has "no spine" (see the link you posted confirming this claim) and is "evil," and quite a few people who don't work for News Corp are pursuing the same goal.

I know, I know, Obama is destroying his own Presidency. So, again, why should or would he purse News Corp?

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:57 PM
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10. He won't pursue Newscorp
He doesn't have the willpower or the spine.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 07:00 PM
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11. "He doesn't have the willpower or the spine."
And just think, Fox is trying to destroy him. Oh well!

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 07:04 PM
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12. They are trying to destroy him
And he just sits there and takes it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 07:20 PM
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13. Maybe
he likes it?

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 07:53 PM
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14. Why would he like it?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 08:11 PM
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15. Because
"he just sits there and takes it."

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:20 PM
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18. You really think he likes it?
Edited on Wed Jul-20-11 10:21 PM by Cali_Democrat
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:22 PM
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5. Word gets around
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:21 PM
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4. The bigger the better, it's in his interests.
Any debt ceiling hike before the election will just remind people about the size of the deficit and debt one more time. If the deficit is still over $1 trillion 4 years after the last elections, it looks really bad, regardless of excuses.

Moreover, he wouldn't want the debt ceiling to be one of his first acts after his second inauguration and having the (D) retake the House. $4 trillion should be good for 3 years--it's roughly the amount of the debt increase for the last 3 year. That'll get the House (D) elected in 2012 through his second midterm election. Of course, it'll also be 2x as large as the largest debt ceiling increase so far, and allow three more years of deficits over $1 trillion.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:37 PM
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7. That was then and this is now. God, the man is a rock isn't he? n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:47 PM
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9. He's doing his
own thing regardless of what anyone says about him. Just like Bush, except what Bush did is being called ballsy and courageous by some on the left. Bush flip-flopped often, stayed the course and, by gosh darn, got what he wanted. Isn't that what's admirable? Isn't that what's mean by "at least Bush..."




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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 09:57 PM
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16. Unrec. (nt)
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Palmer Eldritch Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:13 PM
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17. Despite all your efforts, Obama will prevail.
And you'll just be left with bitter memories.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 11:24 PM
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19. Thank goodness we have a President who is able to think, analyze and adjust as circumstances change.
In contrast to those who have a lockstep right/wrong simple-minded mentality.
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