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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:33 PM
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Either way, the problem is Republicans
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 06:34 PM by ProSense

Either way, the problem is Republicans

So, I posted earlier today about what jackass crazy fuckwits run the Republican party and that's why we're in this current crisis, I suppose the inevitable thing happened in comments: I got scolded about my priorities. Apparently, I'm supposed to be focusing like a laser on how Obama is actually a double agent for the GOP and this was his evil plan all along to gut important social programs. Okay. I can actually sympathize with that point of view, since I remember being a newly minted lefist in college and feeling the allure of "rah rah Nader, Bush and Gore are no different". It was a fairly useless point of view, but it made me feel self-righteous, and at 21, that felt really fucking good. Now I'm older and tired and I look back at Clinton and realize I was being unfair, because while he's far from perfect, suggesting he was the problem is like having cancer and suggesting your hair falling out is your major problem. I was thoroughly cured by 8 years of Bush of this kind of thinking, and am mildly surprised to see how quickly everyone forgot about all that.

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Yes, I'm saying it right here: whether Obama is a secret Republican or whether he's a well-meaning Democrat who is simply being blackmailed is irrelevant. The problem, either way, is Republicans.

Let's look at the competing theories to see what I mean.

Theory #1: Benevolent Obama Theory.

This theory holds that Obama is a moderate Democrat who, while made uncomfortable by deficits (which isn't unreasonable, per se, but should be a secondary concern in an economic crisis) , still believes in a more liberal economic theory when it comes to recessions, due to the fact that history proves those theories correct. In this theory, he's offering deep cuts to beloved and necessary programs because the Republicans are holding the very state of the world economy hostage, willing to plunge us into a Depression if he doesn't start giving away the farm.

The problem: Well, basically the Republicans. If it wasn't for the batshit crazy Republicans willing to destroy our economy to get their way, none of this would be happening.

Theory #2: Evil Obama Theory.

This theory holds that Obama passed himself off as a moderate Democrat to get elected, but is in fact a secret conservative who has been aching for a chance to destroy Social Security, amongst other programs. I found this theory a little confusing at first, because it seemed to me that his secret plan would have been easier to enact when he had a majority party in Congress, so I asked around on Twitter, and this is the explanation I got: he couldn't destroy Social Security then, because there's enough liberals in the Democratic Party that they could have stopped him. It was only after Republicans got control of the House and went crazy that he had enough cover to do what he always hoped he could do.

The problem: Well, basically the Republicans. If the batshit crazy Republicans weren't there giving secretly conservative Obama cover, none of this would be happening.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:35 PM
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1. Batshit republicans seem to be given a pass around these parts
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:49 PM
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2. Either way, the problem is Obama?
Yeah, that would have been a better title.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:50 PM
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3. Well of course. They're not Democrats.
And we all know that Democrats are the real problem, since they COULD create a happy fun perfect world with nothing wrong, where we all shit rainbows and money falls from the sky, but they just DON'T. :sarcasm:
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:56 PM
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4. a lot of naive new voters are pissed at obama (and a lot of trolls)
some are new because they're young, some are new because they were lazy and not interested in politics enough to vote until obama came along (all pols are the same).

some weren't paying attention to republican tactics the last couple of decades and expected super obama to walk into the white billionaires white house and kick ass- thats naive.

maybe some really are highly principled and don't believe in compromise. like my friend for whom all politicians are the same and won't eat cheese with soft plastic wrap under any circumstances because of the chemicals but with do a 12 or 18 pack of cheap canned beer, no problem, with cigarettes.

either way, it is impossible to evaluate obama honestly as long as the left ignores right wing radio, the culprit behind most of these disasters and forcing these compromises. the right's strength is heavily tied to the left ignoring talk radio because it hurts their heads to listen to it. it is the right's most important weapon and there is NO organized challenge to it.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 07:00 PM
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5. K&R

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