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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:25 PM
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Poll question: What'd you think of Pres Obama's speech
and why, if you wish
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:27 PM
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1. Was that a speech? I thought it was a recap.
On the last episode of Endless Back-and-Forth Bullshit....

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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:38 PM
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5. Indeed ... what does Obama want?
At this late hour, what does Obama want?

Will he veto the Boehner plan?

Will he sign the Reid/Pat Buchanan plan?

Yup, we know Pres. Obama wants to be responsible ... but from the speech tonight, what exactly is it that he wants for raising the debt ceiling?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:44 PM
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7. He wants people to know this is serious and to call their congresscritters.
To tell them to compromise rather than automatically blocking anything he or a Dem might ask for.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:01 PM
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13. I will NOT call my Congresswoman to compromise
she's a Democrat and she better stand firm and give NOTHING up on SS/Medicare. :mad:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:53 PM
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15. Perhaps I did not make myself clear. If she's a Dem, then why would she be
"automatically blocking anything he or a Dem might ask for."?
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 07:24 AM
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22. He wants the most vulnerable American People to suffer
more than the people like him.

Otherwise, he would have said there's a third option--Grijalva would be more than happy, I'm sure, to send him the People's Budget again.

But that doesn't hurt poor and working class Americans enough, so yeah, let's go with the Grand Bargain.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:29 PM
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2. Other.....didn't watch. Don't need the aggravation.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:31 PM
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3. I would rate a good speech aimed at those whose are not paying much, if any attention to this crisis
I lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis. I have to say that this is being to feel like a financial version of that time.
Two sides standing recalcitrantly as the world edges closer to the cliff. Someone has to back off or we all go down.

Obama did an effective job of laying out the stakes without creating a panic.

If this crisis continues, I would expect him to be back with even more dire warnings. See this as the next installment
with more to come as he ups the pressure on the teabaggers.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:31 PM
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4. I voted "okay." Telling me I should tell C.W. "Bill" Young what I
think is about the same as telling me to piss up a rope.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:14 PM
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8. i hear ya on that one. i have allen west. eom
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:21 PM
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10. West needs to hear from people like us.
I suspect that all hears are from like minded idiots. IT's time he hears from those who disapprove.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 07:56 AM
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24. yup. so far i have only responded to his mailings to me.
i doubt he will listen to anyone BUT his minions and supporters. i'm hoping he will hear us at the ballot box.

ellen fl
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:25 PM
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18. Piss anyway

What will it cost you?
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:16 AM
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25. All the more reason to register your disapproval.
They need to hear from us. My congressman is a RW a-hole as well but he's going to hear from me.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:40 PM
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6. Other. Didn't watch. What's the point? n/t
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:43 AM
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21. Oh nice. Same fringe attitude that helped elect TeaRadicals last year. You should be so proud.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 07:28 AM
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23. Pride has got nothing to do with it. Nothing new was said.
What does my watching the speech have anything to do with anything? It's my choice. I vote and I support Democrats.

What helped to elect Republicans last year was Democrats choosing not to vote, not Democrats choosing not to listen to the President's speeches.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:19 PM
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9. If enough people call Congress
and voice their approval for Obama's approach over the GOPs then the speech was a success. We shall see.

People other than teabaggers have to start making their voices heard.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:26 PM
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11. It rocked, especially the call to arms. He deserves 100% from the troops now!
He really didn't ask for this before now that I remember.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:27 PM
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12. I thought he did a good job

He showed a hell of a lot more class in his speech than Boner who seemed like a parody of a right wing pundit.

Obama has let me down since becoming pres, but I do really see him picking up the line that goes around here a lot to pushback on the rhetoric of the GOP and create a rhetorical line for dems.

I also liked that he used "middle class" in the speech. Something that Clinton did a lot but Obama has NOT done often enough.

The Dems have got to let people know what is at stake and who the GOP is working for. Nothing new for us here but it's refreshing to hear him calling out the GOP for defending the rich on national tv.
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CrazyBob Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:10 PM
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14. The speech was fine
I could nitpick (as usual), but the speech was fine for promoting our side and our policy preferences.

I do feel like if he has approached the presidency in this manner, the whole landscape of this nation's politics would look much nicer by now. But the speech itself was fine in my opinion.
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Sportsguy Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:00 PM
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16. I Didn't Get To See It
Hopefully, it will be replayed. Our car died, and we were out looking . . .
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:24 PM
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17. The call to action was not in the pre-release transcript

...which I find interesting.

Didn't get to see the speech, so I read the first transcript posted.

There was no warning to the networks - i.e. Fox - that he was going to ask people to contact their reps, so I wonder if their messaging didn't anticipate that.

I'll have to check cspan for other variations on the pre-release text.

It reads quite well, though.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:28 PM
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19. I think the fact that the sites weren't prepared for it indicates that it was a whim, surely.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:46 PM
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20. I doubt it was a whim

President Obama has not struck me as a guy who acts on a lot of whims.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:10 PM
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26. The speech was good. He always does good speeches.
However, his bargaining and policy leave something to be desired.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:04 PM
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27. Question is meaningless?
How do you define a good speech - are the criteria based upon substance, eloquence or the method/style of presentation?
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