POLL: Independent Voters Flee Boehner, Congressional GOP on Debt. Big Obama advantage.

Independent Voters Flee Boehner, Congressional GOP
Overview

A national web survey conducted this week by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner on behalf of Democracy Corps, shows that Independent voters do not trust House Speaker John Boehner and the Congressional Republicans on the debt ceiling and budget deficit debate. These swing voters are tuned in and paying close attention to the debt ceiling debate in Washington and are very concerned about what could happen to the economy should Congress not act.

Most problematic for Speaker Boehner and Republicans is these voters represent a critical bloc that propelled them into the majority last November, but have now turned away from the Republicans. Independent voters supported Republicans nationally by a double digit margin last November, but that support has fallen off during the debt ceiling debate. Independents are extremely negative toward Boehner and just 30 percent favor Boehner and the Republicans’ approach on the debt ceiling debate. Boehner’s personal standing is abysmally low with this bloc, including among self-described conservatives.

Equally important, President Obama has a sizeable advantage over Boehner and the Republicans among Independents on who is more concerned with the interests of the middle class, and Boehner is viewed as looking out more for millionaires and billionaires by a huge margin. Independents simply don’t see Boehner as an advocate for the middle class.

President Obama and Democrats have a real advantage as Boehner and Republicans lack credibility among these swing voters as the debt ceiling debate continues.

http://www.democracycorps.com/strategy/2011/07/independent-voters-flee-boehner-congressional-gop/

FULL RESULTS -- http://www.democracycorps.com/wp-content/files/Independents_Webtest_FQ.pdf

better use the 14th amendment if it comes to that or there could be revolution

The people lose either way. A win for Obama is also a loss for our seniors.

Trying to spin Obama's surrender into a win is ridiculous.

A win for Obama here is a Democratic loss, yes. And it is a Republican win. But it is a TEA PARTY loss.

If there is any deal, it will break the back of the Tea Party Republican alliance. And for the short and long term, that is very important.

You don't seem to understand the players in Congress, and that Obama doesn't have a wand or a scepter.

hour when he asked people to call their congressmen and tell them to compromise. Even a debatable use of the bully pulpit like that had an effect--imagine if he did that upfront and set the priorities instead of waiting for the GOP to do it?

party?

Should we be happy that he's trying to give away Social Security and Medicare in exchange for what? The Department of Agriculture adopting the metric system? The Department of Labor adding Urdu to the available languages for their pamphlets?

This schtick about Obama being the consummate insider is wearing thin, especially when his supporters try to claim it's on our behalf.

He knows perfectly well he had winning hand. He simply doesn't want to win.

Will some people ever learn?

of disaster, they realize . . . oops. But, I'd still rather have them with us than against us. And I definitely perfer indies to emos.

The people have already lost.

Which is sort of hilarious. Gallup has the President's approval among Independents at 34% this week. So that's certainly an . . . interesting categorization of the story from the OP's article.

Who needs reality. We have numbers! Beautiful, beautiful random numbers!

Yeah, people are ok, too.

But seriously, numbers.

Numbers in an Orwellian Twilight Zone.

Thanks.

James Carville - just go to the link.

if you have the demographic information on who's taking the survey.

...so regardless of how this week or this month or this year goes, down the road we'll still have to deal with tea party boneheads, or not. They got voted in once, they can get voted out, and the '20's are being set up now to be either a miserable long slog - much worse than the Bush years - or perhaps good government is possible again.

The party that thinks and plans long-term tends to gain, which is one thing that gets me (off the point a bit) when hearing things like "Someone said something bad about what Obama might do - I'm not voting for him again!"

election were this year rather than next. By this time next year the default will probably have occurred with all its attendant negative impacts on everybody's economy, large and small, and the voters will just be pissed off, period. At that point the object of their desire to 'get even with someone' will, I believe, cause them to vote against Obama because 'he owns the depression caused by the default'.

The questions are how do these people learn how it happened, and who will help spread that word?

Otherwise, voter ignorance will hasten the downfall.

the sponsor of this poll has times to long-time DLC advocate James Carville. I do not believe that these statistics aren't biased in support of the Obama/DLC (or whatever corporate democrats call themselves these days) strategy which after all 'proposed' the SS/medicare/medicaid cuts in the first place.

While Independent voters might prefer Obama over Boehner, they would be just as likely favor Mickey Mouse as John Boehner.

I am not convinced that Obama is winning points with Independents on this strategy.

their data is fine and well respected. They are a message shop, using accurate polling data to try and tailor Democratic responses to accurately measured public opinion.

Their a clean polling outfit.

The teabagger extremists look like fanatical nuts.

Still, a web survey? Not sure I take web survey's very seriously.

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Even if they turn on the GOP right now, so what. They'll change their minds in 2012. And 2014, then 2016.

Besides, what are the choices? A party of plutocrats or a party willing to give up programs that benefit the middle class and poor? People who work for a living have no real representation in national politics.

minds about Obama after he cuts social security and medicare.