Funny-the Freepers feel the REPUBS. caved/sold them out/etc.

Maybe Obama did something right if opposite sides feel the same way about their own sides.

Just a few examples:
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We’ve been sold out just as I knew we’d be.

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This can't be true, can it? Even the congressional Dems are questioning OBummer’s leadership. If McConnell and Boehner fold, they have just destroyed not only their careers, but also their own party.

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as soon as barry the zero said the magic term “their fair share” I knew the Republicans had caved.

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Is KY-jelly involved?

At the very least, a "lose-lose" deal puts to lie the claims that WE lost, no?

;) (Yes, I know it's "You're right." And you are.)

We don't lose to republicans. We just lose, we all lose with this deal. How is losing good.

Just pointing out how ridiculous is it for somebody who yells "We lost we lost we lost" to turn around and say, "oh, it's lose lose, so what?"

Pick a fucking narrative and go with it.

Why is it so much easier to talk to conservatives on social media than supposedly like minded people on DU. I sometimes can't believe some supposed liberals can be such assholes and narrow minded.

And we distributed the loss to Medicare and defense spending.

Frankly I'd trade the unjust wars for Medicare, but since the Republicans are hawks it's very unlikely they'll gut the wars so Medicare is fine and most of Obama's April 13 proposals will be implemented.

you meant "lose, lose".)

And I did mean lose lose, was just in a hurry and mistyped. But you could read it.

seems to stem from well funded think tank messaging on liberal boards such as DU (trolling), lack of initiative to actually read the documents, bills, etc., put out by so-called "liberal" blogs and "news" sources, and raw panic as a result of Bush Era PTSD. I totally get that last one and the fear that comes with it. But, lurching mindlessly at unsubstantiated rumors and spin is unacceptable in this liberal's view. Methodical, intelligent analysis of important issues is what I always believed differentiated us from Freepers, et al.

Having said that, I think there is great value to the "hysteria" in that it tends to force important issues to the surface when the M$M refuses to report to the even lower information voters. What pisses me off, though, is the mindless adoption by some liberals of corporate think tank talking points crafted to discredit/weaken the President over the important issue(s) that need amplification to reach the disengaged. Sadly, most lazy liberals tend to amplify those carefully crafted narratives put out by corporate think tanks, and the tuned out and woefully ill-informed peeps (Independents, for the most part) turn around and grant the Republicans and their base, the Multi-nationals, the keys to the country come election time.

Just my take. I doubt that I'm very far off.

People prefer to just use whatever soundbyte is being parroted as opposed to critically thinking about something.

Now doesn't appear to be the time to appeal to logic and reason, to put it mildly.

Crazies on both sides I tell you...

Interesting indeed.

I bet the "middle majority" will think this is a good deal.

But I never consider myself the lose when I get 80-90% of what I want.

but NICE false equivalency.

It is a real equivalency whether you admit it or not.

Each side wants to screw the other side at the cost of the people. Die with your ideological purity.

Now I like "extremist" ideas to debate, but not fight over.

:thumbsup:

I've seen several "Burn it all down!" threads the past few days.

But don't bother pointing out how much alike the two poles have started to sound.

To solve some of our issues and ensure country's future, particularly for younger folks, most of us are going to have to take some things we don't like. But, if we do it sensibly, the "pain" part can be spread equitably (poor -- hopefully some increases; middle -- sorry might have to pay something; rich -- really sorry, but you've had the good rates long enough). No, we never should have gotten in this situation -- another bush failure -- but we are in it and will all be better off than we're gonna be if both sides keep drawing a hard line (drawing a line is OK, but sometimes, you gotta move it a little).

And, nope, I don't think Obama has "caved" that much in the long-term, grand scheme of things.

Either side. For Freepers is even more absurd since POTUS has veto power.

:shrug:

Both extremes are huffin' & puffin'.

If "both extremes are huffin' & puffin'" it must be about right. The "extremes" are NOT the majority.

...can't figure out what to believe.