Chris Cillizza - Liberals are losers in this deal, Tea Party winners

Losers:

Winners:


As a progressive, I am furious.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-debt-ceiling-deal-winners-and-losers/2011/07/31/gIQAHl7FmI_story.html

because they don't see it that way.

Interesting how the far end of each party is claiming defeat and rollover. How can that be?

and both the far left & far right hate that word equally. But, in reality - both sides got somethings that they wanted (no tax increases for them, extended to '13 for us), and both hate some things in there.

It's not perfect.. but I'm not really sure what better deal we would have been able to get either. It's not like the House was going to just change their minds over-night and give Obama whatever he wanted. Hell.. 1/3 of them wanted to freaking default.

I know a number of moderate mainstream Democrats. And they are furious about this.

I don't like it, but neither do they.

I expect the teabaggers in the House to vote for this bill!

"With no revenue in the initial phase" = there is in the second phase.
"Medicare cuts on the table in the second phase" = there no cuts on the table now.

Obama declared the Medicare cuts to be "modest adjustments" and I believe him. And there are quite a few adjustments I can think of that need to made in Medicare that do not effect the benefits. Adjusting the purchase of drugs in Part D is one. Reimbursements to provider hospitals is another.

The pundits on TV are just trying hard to perpetuate the punditry. I'm sick of it. I read for myself and don't give a good crap what any of these commentators think. I frequently listen to the same speeches and hear things never mentioned by anyone. People hear what they want to hear, and I HATE SPIN, especially in slogans.

rhetoric...these boards are a public opportunity for you to express your undying support for the President

to support the president. Oh, no. We want to curl up in a little ball of cynicism and wither away to nothing. That'll teach the Republicans!

And i mean a fight that special interests had lots of $$ at stake if they lost.

is just spinning. On this board, the spinning should be for us, not them.

make matters worse we should try to spin it to make it not look so bad after all. Got it. Then they will continue to screw us all the while we will be whistling in the dark.

I'm sure your brilliant powers of prescience...oh, forget it. This guy's not worth it.

so I'd say they lost too.

This isn't even a Pyhrric Victory for them; it was their Waterloo.

NO WAY is Big Money going to let their vast fortunes be held hostage by a bunch of ignorant, know-nothing, suicide mission politicians like the Teabaggers.

The money spigot will not be opened for them again, and their 'grass-roots' fund-raising will not be able to overcome massive money from mainstream Republican sources in any primary or election.

They are toast.

I can't wait to hear the music of their wailing; it will be all for naught.