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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:20 PM
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OK it's passed the house... now, who will be the 'thug that throws a hold on the bill in the Senate?
Rand Paul?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:21 PM
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1. thug?
I hope it fails.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:22 PM
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2. Nope time for Obama to hit the campaign trail nt
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:23 PM
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3. I think it was Mike Lee (R-UT) yesterday that said he was going to filibuster it? n/t
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:25 PM
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4. Thugs?
I hope Sen. Sanders mounts a filibuster ... I hope Rand Paul joins this filibuster.

I'm tired of Obama 'responsiblism' as a cover for greedy corporatism.

Maybe we need a few progressive 'thugs' to stand up and fight for regular working, middle class Americans for a change.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:30 PM
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6. as in Re'thuglican....
jeeze, try to keep up willya? :)
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:26 PM
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5. there are plenty of votes to overcome a filibuster.
its over.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:31 PM
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7. I did NOT say fillibuster...
I said HOLD. ANY senator may place a hold on a bill to prevent it from coming to the floor.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:33 PM
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8. not familiar with that procedure.. no way around it?? How does that work?
If that's true why has it not be used more frequently in the past on bills members didnt like?
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:35 PM
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9. Here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_hold

"In the United States Senate, a hold is a parliamentary procedure permitted by the Standing Rules of the United States Senate which allows one or more Senators to prevent a motion from reaching a vote on the Senate floor.

If the Senator provides notice privately to his or her party leadership of their intent (and the party leadership agreed), then the hold is known as a secret or anonymous hold. If the Senator actually objects on the Senate floor or the hold is publicly revealed, then the hold is more generally known as a Senatorial hold."

(more)
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:39 PM
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10. "Holds, like filibusters, can be defeated through a successful cloture motion"
they have the votes.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:41 PM
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11. Maybe.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:42 PM
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12. why maybe?? are you challenging Senate rules?
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:53 PM
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13. Maybe they would have enough votes, maybe not n/m
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 06:55 PM
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14. ok. misunderstood. I still think they will have enough..
way more than enough.
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