His heart isn't in it anymore

Wow. As I'm watching this speech, he looks and sounds completely defeated/demoralized.

sad really

Sounded businesslike to me, and like he wanted to get past the deficit situation in favor of rebuilding and creating jobs. I'll grant that he sounded pretty disgusted with the fact that politics was holding up other things of importance.

He's pissed that Congress took this so far and put the US in such a dangerous position over something that had no business wasting this much time.

Plain and simple.

The "Giver-Upper-in-Chief"

Sounded like he's doing work, giving a presser, then going back to work.

He doesn't have to be all fire and brimstone every time he speaks.

I can't recall.

there is a great thing called Google.

Look up

Obama: A more perfect Union

Obama: Keynote speech 2004 Dem Convention

I mean who ever thinks "I have a dream" is relevant and important today?! It was soooooooo long ago.


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And the inspiration of Obama initial speeches has long faded into the rear view mirror of history
for many of us former supporters.

Positivity does not equal negativity.

I bet I'm more "completely defeated/demoralized" than he.

Remember that you said a viable candidate. That's someone who can get votes beyond liberals and Democrats.

This line of thinking of your results in a Romney or Perry presidency, control of the senate and a greater majority in the house to the Rs.

Obama is not perfect by any stretch, and I have been disappointed at times.

But, he is not NEAR as bad as people here make him out to be, AND ...

We are lucky to break even on even fights with all Ds on one side against the Rs ...

You start to pull Ds from the ranks to put bullets in our president, we are DEAD in 2012 ...

He ain't perfect, but it is him or President Perry and a 2000 to 2006 type rubber stamp republican congress ...

Pres. Obama imagined himself to be a post-partisan prez but finds himself in a situation where "transformational" means calling out the other side for the radical terrorists they are and mobilizing the American people to restore democracy.

So far he doesn't have the stomach or the heart to be that kind of transformational president.

He's pissed that Congress couldn't do its job.

You're going to be very disappointed when he keeps running for his second term.

It also looks like you're not going to get impeachment you thought would be "a win-win for Progressives" right now.

So since he won't drop out like you want or get impeached like you'd like, you might have to knuckle down and start mounting the campaign for the primary challenger.

Good luck to you!


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we do, and to be beaten down again and again has got to take its toll.

I hope he becomes stronger during this last year, and that he begins to see the fruits of his labors. I wish that for us all.

FWIW, I'm thinking you are projecting...based on your past posts.

Or maybe Obama came on DU and saw your claim that he needs to be primaried or even impeached.

que?

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your pretense is very transparent. Don't tell me you are willing to deny you ever said such a thing here on DU? Would you really lie in public?

You'd be pissed too if Presidential duties now include babysitting.

no way! the fight has just begun!! 5 and a half more years! :fistbump:

we roll over for the GOP every time.

...is interesting and a tad shallow.

You seem to think that ranting, yelling and spewing fire is how politics is done? Not only unrealistic but a total misrepresentation of the behind the scene maneuvering that is done. Even Limpballs realizes the Right got screwed. Yet, here you are doing you continued duty (was it paid?), to make pathetic attmepts to demoralize the left. Which leads me to wonder, really, why are you here?

Have you not figured out his narrative yet? Keep them in the victim mentality, so that they
will stay angry at liberals. It has nothing to do with reality.

This was a terrible deal for anyone who stands for democratic principles or cares about
the quality of of our society. In fact, it borders on a nightmare, as in we woke up to
find that our government is in the hands of terrorists. And our Congress and our President
our impotent to protect us from their destruction.

as evidenced by this "deal" ~

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he has also been dealing with the Republican unfunded FAA and many other important issues that the Republicans are filibustering, obstructing or playing dirty tricks with as well.

First and foremost, President Obama is a human being, he has all of the emotions and feelings we all have, but just in different degrees. So to me, he's a person first.

When I look at President Obama, all I can tell by watching him on television, is that he is being who he thinks he needs to be in any given situation, as to not add to difficult decisions and show reaction that others can interpret in their own way and (most likely), try and use it against him in some way.

The President now lives inside of a very structured and scheduled bubble, and has been drawn into and sees the reality of politics for what it really is and that the idea of bipartisanship, really does not exist in the Republican vocabulary and therefore does not exist in government today for the purposes of negotiating deals for the country "in good faith." There are no real negotiations these days, there are created crisis's by the Republicans, they hold the country hostage, bring it to the brink of some kind of disaster and then the President is forced to give in to their terrorist demands. That's what is looks like to the rest of us I'm afraid.

The President has been attacked from day one by anyone and everyone on the rabid extreme right in order to label him "not one of us." None of us really know who this man is, we will never see him relaxed and in his own private environment, we will never see him as the friend next door. We will never see how he privately reacts with Michelle and the kids, we will only get to see the act, the act of a President, being President, each time he makes a speech, and every tine we see him on television.

Each day he leaves his private quarters in the White House, he starts that act of being President, greeting people, making and taking phone calls, taking meetings, reading briefings and acting strong as one of the most powerful people in the world.

In the final analysis, he is just like you and me, he is a human being the only difference now for him, is that he is President of the United States. I don't know what that really entails, I don't know what he's thinking, I don't know who he really is as a person, I don't know what really believes, and I don't know for a fact, if he is truly the President of us all, or if he is the President of the corporations, the rich and Powerful.

I have been taught however, to watch what a person does, rather than what they say in order to determine who and what they really are.

My interpretation of his actions as opposed to his rhetoric are starting to move me in one direction.

When a President doesn't talk about helping the poor, when the President doesn't keep a conversation going in the country about the need for jobs and spending to create jobs, when the President doesn't speak often or forcefully about protecting unions, and when the President would consider potential cuts to social programs for the poor and middle class without forcing tax increases for the super rich and powerful.

Then that allows people to form opinions about where the President stands and who he stands for. Any human being can only bare so much, the President included, so maybe when he made that speech, he was angry, felt betrayed, was mentally tired, blamed himself for the failures in not being able to bring people together in bipartisanship, maybe Michelle, behind the scenes, is upset with him or He is upset with her as well. Maybe the upsets if they exist, have noting to do with what he is doing as Presiedent and maybe they do. We however, will never know these things unless a book comes out at a latter date, but these types of things affect most families, whey whould their family be different.

None of knows, so none of can really comment based on factual information. I only wish that the President would start to see the Republicans for what and who they really are, and would start relating to them from that place rather than a place in his head of bipartisanship, that does not exist.
Lou

that you feel that way? :boring: