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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 07:04 AM Original message |
Xpostfactoid: "lambasting Obama for not making arguments that he did, in fact, make" |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. Narratives matter. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. So he said those things once? |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. That's IT, ClassWarrior. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Actually, he's said this shit over, and over, and over, and over... |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. How about some links? Perhaps some fresher than two years old? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. ? |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. So what...you wanted the OP to post each and every single time? |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
3. Folks like Westen have built themselves an airtight argument ... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. True. All of Obama's failures are the media's fault. Or the Liberals fault. Or theRepublicans fault. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. "The liberal media doesn't help the liberal message get out??" |
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Champion Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
4. K & R |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
5. It's not so much what he said as what he did |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 08:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Not being sarcastic, but... |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. My point is if his actions matched his words |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Yes, he did |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. If he only asks in private, he doesn't ask. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Here's what's funny: he did |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I have no idea what you're talking about. |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
9. There's your problem... |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
10. The reason most Americans do not HEAR... |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
12. Westen addresses that |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I think of holding at times incompatible views as a hallmark of being adult |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. that doesn't make sense |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 09:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. See, I think of sophistry as having a pat, simple, consistent answer for everything |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Having incompatible views certainly impresses my boss, and he is an adult. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Incompatible views means you haven't spent enough time thinking about your views. |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
18. Some have even admitted they "don't listen to him anymore". From whom do they get their talking pts |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Obama should give up trying to impress the PL, and focus on impressing moderates, like in 2010. |
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tledford (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. The Professional Left is a non-existent bogeyman invented by apologists ... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. You are confusing the PL with the Emo Liberals. n/t |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
22. Obama needs a website we can show to swing voters called "He did too say that!" |
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