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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:29 PM
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Jesse Jackson on Obama: 'Some Layer of the Excitement is Gone'
In an interview with SPIEGEL, civil rights activist and Baptist minister Jesse Jackson discusses Black America's frustration with Barack Obama and the president's failure to anticipate the Republicans' tenacious will to 'destroy' him.

SPIEGEL: When was the last time you spoke to President Barack Obama?

Jackson: It has been a while.

SPIEGEL: But you were one of his early mentors in Chicago and the picture of your public tears in Chicago's Grant Park after his election victory in 2008 went around the globe. How would you describe your current feelings about his presidency?

Jackson: At that moment in Grant Park, we were finally winning, but I was reflecting on the long journey, the many years of struggle for civil rights. Obama ran the last lap of a 60-year campaign. I thought of all the bruises we endured during this campaign and I thought of Dr. Martin Luther King and wished he had been there just for 20 seconds to see how 60 years of struggle suddenly paid off. Sure, some layer of the excitement of that night is gone.

SPIEGEL: Is it true that even among African-Americans Obama's standing has suffered?

Jackson: We blacks were the first people embracing Obama, long before the people at expensive fundraisers were supporting him. We gave him his first love, 96 percent of blacks voted for him in 2008. Yet today we are the number one in unemployment, with 16 percent of American blacks out of work. We are number one in foreclosure, number one in short life expectancy, in loan default. Big banks steered their toxic products toward minorities and Congress did not oversee them properly because it is basically corrupted by all the money it is raising on Wall Street. So there is a lot of pain here in our community and this pain must be addressed.

full: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,778990,00.html
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:40 PM
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1. Thanks for posting
Whoever is unrec'ing needs to effing read the article first.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 01:01 PM
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10. so many of us are surprised and disappointed
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:42 PM
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2. I remember jackson' hot mike
comments during the campaign, therefore in my book what he says about Obama is not exactly relevant.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:55 PM
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3. Jesse Jackson does not represent all black people

and never has..

I take his remarks as fluff..
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 12:55 PM
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4. "I wanna cut his nuts off." Jesse Jackson about Obama in 2008.
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 12:57 PM by CakeGrrl
Yeah, there's a credibility problem here. He said that because he thought Obama was "talking down to black people".

A biased perspective, to say the least.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 04:45 AM
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20. Don't blame Jesse for the fact that Obama doesn't have the balls to confront the Repukes! NT
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 04:36 PM
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24. I blame you for your strawman. n/t
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 03:51 PM
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12. Thank You. Why is it that the only black folks who are embraced by "the left" these days...
the ones who are always trashing this AA president? :shrug: Me thinks Jesse is suffering from the same green eyed monster that Tavis and Cornel are afflicted with. I think each of these guys thought they would be invited to play a much more intimate role in this administration, and when that didn't happen, they resorted to childish playground tactics. It's pathetic, really.

And who would know better about a "missing layer of excitement" than Rev. Jesse?
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 07:22 PM
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14. Well, I don't think he's actually trashing Obama
I think he's just sharing his concerns.

He also subtly digs at Cornel while seeming to show a great deal of sympathy for Obama's plight. He even says that he regrets some of the things he's said to and about the president.

Jesse knows he's made an ass out of himself in the past. And unlike the Two Clowns Smiley and Corny, he actually seems to have learned and grown from those mistakes.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 09:29 AM
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21. Did you hear? The two clowns took their show on the road!
:rofl:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:19 PM
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16. Now Cornell West is a bad guy?...
damn, it is getting hard keeping up on these things.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 09:33 AM
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22. "awoke_in_2003"?
I don't think so. You must be groggy still. :rofl:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 03:52 PM
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23. you are the one...
saying he has resorted to childish playground tactics and saying he is affected by the green eyed monster of jealousy.
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Gunny1 Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 03:54 PM
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5. "Big banks steered their toxic products toward minorities"
What a disgusting fucking corruption of language and reason.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:33 PM
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7. Fuck you, Jesse! You always wanted to cut the man's balls off. You are irrelevant
And a charlatan!!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:36 PM
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8. Gee The bus made it record time...And so many "Democratic" drivers
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 07:32 PM
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9. Um, Jesse, Clinton had the bulk of black support until Iowa
Blacks were skeptical that the skinny kid with the funny name could beat The Clinton machine and weren't planning on wasting their votes on him. They became his most loyal supporters, but they weren't the first to embrace him as Jesse says.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 01:23 PM
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11. I knew this would be good.
Move over folks, one more for the undercarriage of the bus.

:popcorn:




:D
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 07:39 PM
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15. Jesse Jackson jumped under that bus loooong before Obama was elected President.
No one put him there, and the points he was trying to make aren't exactly correct.

As noted above.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 07:19 PM
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13. Jesse Jackson has not been relevant for a LOOOOONG time
But I think this paragraph is essential:

"But Obama's focus on talking about black responsibility gave the impression that our problems are based primarily on a lack of responsibility and less on a lack of resources. It gives the impression that somehow we are unemployed because we are not working as hard. And there is no evidence of that. The gap between black and white has widened in America. There is a growing health gap, a housing gap, an income gap. But this gap is not an effort gap, it is structural and institutional - the continued legacy of centuries of slavery and legal segregation. And don't forget: The black community was essential for Obama's victory. He must nurture that base if he wants to be re-elected."

On this, the Rev and I agree.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:27 PM
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17. what it is to me...Obama ran thinking he could actually create
harmony and cooperation in government. It was naive.

the two sides are diametrically opposed.

that is what is sad and disappointing to me.

not that he didn't create harmony...but that it
in unattainable. The only way I ever see it being achievable is
if there was some TREMENDOUS catastrophe where we all HAD to
come together.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-11 02:03 AM
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19. pure bullshit
he sure never fucking attempted to harmonize with REAL DEMOCRATS
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 09:42 PM
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18. Jeez louise
In the CURRENT black community, Jesse Jackson is irrelevant. Hell, even Jr. distanced himself from him during the primaries and general election. Rev. Al has taken his spot and Warren Ballentine is on the come up. That's why the white media need to buy a clue, but I guess that wouldn't go with the slant they are going.

Yeah, there some black people who may be disappointed in the POTUS. But the more accurate question to ask black people is NOT if you are disappointed in the President, but WILL you vote for him in 2012.

In spite of any disappointment we may have, we understand what he is up against.WE knew it wasn't going to be easy for him and WE knew that he wasn't the Magic Negro that a lot of the mainstream thought he was. We knew he was an intelligent man who loved his country and knew that he could lead it in the right direction from the hell hole gw left us in
End of story.
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