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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:16 PM
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The media continues to frame the blame as if it is two sided.
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 04:17 PM by Tiggeroshii
As stocks continued Monday to tumble in the wake of Standard & Poor’s downgrade of the United States’ credit rating, Democrats are working to place the blame for the move squarely on the shoulders of the "tea party" movement.

David Axelrod, a top campaign advisor to President Obama, led the charge over the weekend, calling S&P’s action “essentially a tea party downgrade.”


http://www.latimes.com/la-pn-dems-downgrade-20110808,0,1234623.story
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Actually it was S&P who said that using the debt as a bargaining tool, brinkmanship and the Republican majority's blatant inability to agree to tax increases(aka:" Revenue increases" or "corrections") that resulted in their decision. But in the media's attempt to be "fair," they would rather quote Obama or the Democrats in quoting S&P as if it is an opinion that S&P said this, not fact. What the fuck?
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:20 PM
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1. Let's be honest here....
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 04:21 PM by vi5
The Tea Party and the Repubs were not the only ones sounding the "austerity" bell and saying we needed to tighten our belts and eat our peas.

I seem to recall a few prominent people from our side (one in particular comes to mind) saying the exact same things, in slightly different tones.

If austerity wasn't the solution, and the debt wasn't the problem then maybe Democrats shouldn't have been saying "We agree!!!" when the republicans said it was and insisted on focusing on jobs rather than the deficit.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:21 PM
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4. There is no such thing as a "Tea Party" - they ARE REPUBLICANS
You do them a favor by acknowledging their framing.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:37 PM
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9. You are correct....
But my main point still stands. It wasn't just Republicans who were calling for austerity.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:55 PM
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10. Agreed. But everybody has said there should be cuts -even the rating agencies..
But the specific reason for the downgrade is cited by S&P as something that the Republicans did primarily -not the Democrats.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:21 PM
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2. Well, you know, everything has two sides
"Some people say Auschwitz was a horror, but others maintain that it solved population pressures." -- MSM
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:21 PM
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3. Oh the media got some memo a decade back that says that every single argument has to
Edited on Mon Aug-08-11 04:22 PM by truedelphi
Be examined in terms of two differing sides.

So if I say the earth is round, and some nit wit says it is flat, I guess the media will entertain a compromise - that the earth is in fact square.

I do think that over the last ten years, one of the biggest responsibilities that the media has put on itself is to keep Americans in a total state of being brain-addled by Mind F____ing discussions...

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:22 PM
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5. Tweety and Ed Rendell just went after Obama on lack of leadership.
They talked about his speech today where he didn't lay anything out on the table. That he won't pick a fight and he needs to. In short, that he is not leading.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:23 PM
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6. If it were the Democrats fault - there would be no shared blame
When you fucked up and have the media behind you, you turn it around and blame everyone so as to not take the full blame.

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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:27 PM
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7. Of course they do. The MSM will never let the GOP take full responsibility for anything bad.
And if Dems think the MSM attack on Obama dovetails with their so-called 'criticisms', they're wrong. The MSM is doing it to prop up the GOP and their candidate.
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boxman15 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:29 PM
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8. Anybody who doesn't blame this on the Teapublicans
is either willfully ignorant or just plain stupid. And our media will likely enable them. Truth be damned, they need ratings!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 08:50 AM
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11. off the cuff opinions about BOTH sides being wrong is so much easier than delving
into the facts and policy--it is a driven by shortcuts and the lack of real journalism which sees knee jerk reactions and celebrity (punditry) opinion as an efficient alternative to paying real journalists to substantiate their findings with facts and figures.

When Joe, Mika and Mike Barnicle agree that both sides are wrong, then both sides must be wrong...after all, they are on national television claiming both sides are equally wrong.

And that qualifies as journalism?
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 09:03 AM
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12. It's not two sided?
Have you not been paying attention the past two years?
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 09:07 AM
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13. Liberal MSNBC just had Steve Forbes on to blame ObamaCare.
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