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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:35 PM
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‘Super Committee’ membership now complete

‘Super Committee’ membership now complete

By Steve Benen

With Republicans announcing their six members of the 12-person Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction (aka “Super Committee”) yesterday, all that was left was House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) making her selections. She announced her choices this morning: Assistant Democratic Leader James Clyburn (D-S.C.), Democratic Caucus Vice Chair Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.), and House Budget Committee Ranking Member Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.).

Brian Beutler had a good summary of the relevant background all three will bring to the process.

As a member of the bipartisan deficit discussion group, convened by Vice President Joe Biden, that laid the groundwork for the debt limit deal, Clyburn — the third ranking Democrat in the House — publicly backed certain entitlement benefit cuts. Specifically, he said negotiators should at least consider further means-testing of Social Security or reduce benefits across the board by reducing Cost of Living Adjustments. <…>

Van Hollen is the Dems’ top budget guy in the House. He’s one of the party’s chief antagonists of the GOP budget, which calls for phasing out Medicare, and was also a member of the Biden working group. Publicly, he’s been an advocate of approaches to deficit reduction that pair about one dollar of tax increases with about three dollars of spending cuts. He recently cited the Bowles-Simpson framework as a counterpoint to the Republican plan. Their proposal largely punted on controlling health care costs, but called for eliminating all tax expenditures, and ensuring indefinite Social Security solvency with a combination of benefit cuts and revenue increases.

Becerra was a member of the Bowles-Simpson commission and he voted against their plan from the left. He’s the top Democrat on the Ways and Means Social Security subcommittee and will likely be progressives’ main ally on the Super Committee.

I can appreciate why, given the panel’s responsibilities, it makes to scrutinize all of the members’ records as they relate to entitlements. We’re looking for clues as to what to expect.

But I suspect the key takeaway from the House Democratic selections is that all three are key, close allies of Pelosi, and they will very likely be representing her interests during the negotiations.

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Another view, via Daily Kos: Pelosi strengthens Democratic Super Congress team with leadership picks

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Pelosi's picks: Democratic whip James E. Clyburn, caucus vice chair Xavier Becerra of Los Angeles and Chris Van Hollen, ranking Dem on the Budget Committee. Becerra voted against the recommendations of the Bowles Simpson deficit commission last year, and Clyburn and Van Hollen are loyal Pelosi lieutenants.

Pelosi said in a statement that the committee must focus on jobs and economic growth, time any spending cuts and tax increases in a way that does not further hamper short-term growth, and "ensure that wages grow with productivity."<...>

She laid out her bottom line for a "grand bargain" that "reduces the deficit by addressing our entire budget" i.e. tax increases, "while strengthening Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security," i.e. no benefit cuts in entitlements.

Those are the marching orders for these three, apparently, but they'll have to contend with the less-than-always-stalwart Democratic senators and the six Republicans who have sold their souls to Grover Norquist. So how do these three look when it comes to potential capitulation to the unmoveable no taxes coalition? Not bad.

Rep. Clyburn, number three in Democratic leadership in the House, has previously been problematic for progressives, since he has advocated for a retirement age increase and the chained CPI fairly recently. But according to http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20110810/NEWS/308100004/Jim-Clyburn-Lindsey-Graham-call-debt-talks">this report from a local news source, he's backed off, saying that "he would be unwilling to support increasing the retirement age for Social Security and he doesn't think the government's spending problem is entitlement programs."

Clyburn said GOP demands for entitlement reductions and tax cuts are dishonest.

"This is just blaming poor people for the problem ...while fat cats get another tax cut," he said, adding that the argument that raising taxes kills jobs is a "fiction. It just is not true."

That's good news. As is the pick of Becerra, who Pelosi also chose for the original Catfood Commission, where he was a "no" vote, and also a member of the leadership, the Vice Chair of the House Democratic Caucus. Meteor Blades has noted of Becerra, "(h)e is the highest ranking Latino in the Democratic caucus and is its vice chair. He is a member of the Progressive Caucus and the Hispanic Caucus, and is a strong ally of Nancy Pelosi. He has backed increased benefits for the poor."

Van Hollen, as former DCCC chair and the ranking member on the Budget Committee is a solid partisan who undoubtedly understands just how critical it is to Democratic prospects in 2012 to protect social insurance programs. But he's also got a solid record of supporting workers and the middle class. As MB noted, he was one of just a handful of members who accepted "a Philadelphia group's challenge to try to live on a food-stamps budget for a month." So he gets it, as much as any Democratic member.

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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:43 PM
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1. Good picks
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 01:47 PM by politicasista
Me likes Clyburn. He look like he don't play!

OTOH, The picks on the Senate side would have been better if the crook Baucus was not picked, but since he is there everyone just writes off the other two. (Prove them wrong Sens Kerry and Murray).
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 01:47 PM
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2. Frankly,
I'm extremely thrilled Kerry is there, he is the least of my concerns, and I'm glad to see Becerra and Murray. The others are questionable.

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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:05 PM
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3. Ok.
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 02:10 PM by politicasista
We shall see how this all plays out.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:12 PM
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4. Baucus is not a crook
He is disliked here because of his work Chairing the Finance committee on the the healthcare bill. The fact is that the he was an early proponent of the public option. The reason it was not included in his bill was that there were not 60 votes if it was included. The final bill ended up almost exactly what Baucus outlined - and it squeaked through.

The entire structure of the HC system was in Baucus' bill - that was good work by Baucus and a few others on the Finance committee. I know that is heresy here, but I watched the Finance committee hearings. I also monitored Dean's site and there NEVER were 60 Senators for the public option - and he included some like Lincoln who spoke and voted against it in that committee.

More related in 2010o or 2009, when the Senate had a bill to set up a committee like this, he was lead sponsor of an amendment that protected SS.

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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:16 PM
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5. Crook was a strong word,
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 03:47 PM by politicasista
just do not like the fact that his selection bring the other two down.

And did not care for the way he handled the HCR mess (he should have given his signing pen to the little boy that lost his mother). Wonder how would if have been if PO and SP (though Obama did not campaign on it) would have turned out.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:41 AM
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14. There are many signing pens for legislation - and Obama desides who they go to
Baucus was one person who was obviously going to get one. There were many people used to make the (obvious) case that health care was needed. I assume being mentioned by the President was a major honor for him and, if Obama wanted him to have a pen, Obama could have given him one.

As to single payer, had Baucus championed that - something Bernie Sanders said had less than 10 votes - it would have simply wasted time and maybe the final main bill would not have passed before Brown was elected, leaving us with nothing.

Baucus did support the public option - and I think Hacker spoke to the committtee in one of the earliest hearings. If you watched the markup, you would have seen that there were Democrats on the Finance committee who voted against 3 versions of the public option. We needed all 60 Democrats.

Ignored is that the entire HCR structure makes future enabling of a public option easy - if we return to more liberal times with it intact. It would simply need its own legislation to create the bureaucracy for it and it would then be an option added to the exchange.

What you fail to see was that with universal Republican rejection, including by the moderates who previously supported it, there was an excellent chance of getting nothing. What we got is far better than nothing. Baucus and other leaders really had to thread a needle to get this passed.

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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:51 PM
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7. thanks for the info
there usually is some other side we don't hear here, isn't there.

people want it simple and put blame I guess. Still not sure about him, but I'm not sure about much lately, especially here.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:58 PM
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8. Agree
I remember the frustration when watching the HRC markup with Baucus opposing Rockefeller's and others' attempts at putting some form of public option in the bill. He kept saying exactly what you mentioned above, that there are not enough votes for it and it will not pass the whole Senate. Frstrating, yes, but he was right. He knows what he is doing.

By the way, unless you are back already, you should be out enjoying everything around you, not here defending Baucus :-).
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:00 PM
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9. Wasn't trying to bash Baucus
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 04:09 PM by politicasista
but guess that came out wrong. :shrug:
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:24 PM
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10. Compared to other things
I read around here, your comment was very mild :-) & :hi:
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:29 PM
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11. Thanks :)
:hi:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 01:28 AM
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13. Still in Italy, but just on after long, lovely days of sight seeing
or (like now) ready and waiting for breakfast.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:45 PM
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6. On the completion of inauspicious things
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:31 PM
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12. This group would appear to be one that would more likely come to agreement on cutting spending..
than raising taxes.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 02:16 AM
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15. I think you are correct.
When doctors make 10X what teachers make, a society is broken.
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