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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:17 PM
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New MSNBC host Al Sharpton vowed in a '60 Minutes' interview never to criticize Obama
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 02:28 PM by brentspeak
Although it's unlikely Sharpton won't provide any criticism of Obama; he's certain to include a bit of mild, kid-gloves critique to create the facade of tough, journalistic objectivity.



http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/07/27/sharpton/

Wednesday, Jul 27, 2011 08:28 ET

by Glen Greenwald

On Sunday, Cenk Uygur http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1107/24/rs.01.html">was interviewed by CNN's Howard Kurtz about Uygur's departure from MSNBC, and Ugyur claimed that Al Sharpton -- widely reported to be his replacement -- vowed in a 60 Minutes interview never to criticize President Obama under any circumstances. When I first heard Ugyur make this claim, I assumed it was hyperbole -- until I http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7366908n">watched the video and http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/05/19/60minutes/main20064391.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody">read the transcript of the Sharpton interview. The 60 Minutes segment was aired on May 19, 2011, and chronicles what it calls Sharpton's "metamorphosis: today he's down right tame. So much so, that he has made his way into the establishment." It includes this:

Sharpton told us that having a black president is a challenge: if he finds fault with Mr. Obama, he'd be aiding those who want to destroy him. So he has decided not to criticize the president about anything -- even about black unemployment, which is twice the national rate.

The segment also described Sharpton as "now a trusted White House adviser" and recounts that "given his loyalty and his change from confrontational to accommodating, the administration is rewarding him with access and assignments."

How can a media outlet such as MSNBC that purports to be presenting political journalism possibly employ someone as a journalist -- even an opinion journalist -- who publicly and categorically pledges never to criticize the President of the United States under any circumstances? That would be like hiring a physician who vows never to treat any diseases, or employing an auto mechanic who pledges never to fix any cars, or retaining a pollster who swears never to make any findings about public opinion. Holding people in political power accountable is the prime function -- the defining feature -- of a journalist, including a pundit; if you expressly and publicly vow never to do that, how can you possibly be credibly presented as being one? And how can the political analysis of someone who takes this pledge possibly be trusted as sincerely held, let alone accurate? Note that this vow was not from three years ago; it was from two months ago.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:21 PM
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1. yea ... we should watch FOX NEWS for real info!!!!
:rofl:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:25 PM
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2. Such standards are the things that makes FoxNews so awful
And the choices are not Al or FoxNews. They simply are not. Preset vows to never be critical are poison to journalism. Left or right.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:10 PM
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7. He's not a journalist. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:53 PM
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 02:45 PM
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3. Al Sharpton is nothing but a Clown.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:09 PM
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6. You have a lot of nerve.
For many of us in New York, he's the only voice we got when there's injustice---especially during the time of Guilliani who made it hell on Earth to be anything darker than beige and gave cops free reign to terrorize minority people.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:17 PM
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10. Yes, much better to suck down the spin of ex-Bushie Cenk Uygur, right?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:59 PM
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14. For the sake of forum members who don't wish to be misled by poster "CakeGrrl"
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 03:59 PM by brentspeak
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/george-bush-will-live-in-_b_31864.html">Cenk Ugyar: George Bush Will Live in Infamy for What He Has Done to Iraq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HJDiz-hSXs">Cenk Ugyar: "George Bush Deserves Zero Credit For Killing Osama bin Laden" (video)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/big-media-lie-people-like_b_6171.html">Cenk Ugyar: Big Media Lie -- People Like George W. Bush
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:18 PM
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16. For the sake of forum members who don't want to be misled by poster "brentspeak"
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 04:27 PM by CakeGrrl
Uygur: President Obama More Conservative than Reagan

His politically formative years:

Uygur has described himself as a former "Northeast moderate Republican".<12> He was a supporter of President Ronald Reagan, a member of the Republican student group at the University of Pennsylvania,<13> and the conservative Federalist Society.

While in college, he wrote a column in the Daily Pennsylvanian decrying the lack of affirmative action recruiting for white Christian students at the university and suggesting that all students should be "judged on their merits rather than their physical characteristics."<7> He supported the pro-life position on the abortion issue, criticized aspects of the feminist movement, and felt Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was treated unjustly during his Senate confirmation hearings.<14> He also criticized organized religion as based on mythology and as a divisive force between peoples.<15>

He has stated that he worked for a time for Republican former New York Congressman Joe DioGuardi.<16> and voted for George H. W. Bush in the 1992 presidential election and for Bob Dole in 1996.

Uygur supported the Gulf War of 1990-1991, and supported the War in Afghanistan from its beginning in 2001 until 2009—though he has strongly opposed the Iraq War.<12>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenk_Uygur


Yeah, I'll take Sharpton.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:48 PM
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19. Cakegrrl, now you've done it! FACTS! They burn!
:rofl:


:applause:
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:02 PM
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21. Go ahead, "take" Al Sharpton
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 06:02 PM by brentspeak
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:39 PM
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25. Shocking expose...not.
This is no bombshell.

In this arena? I'll stick with Al over the Progressive-come-VERY-lately Uygur.
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AngkorWot Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 08:53 PM
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27. >Tawana Brawley.
And I assume you share the same vehemence to the people who think Strauss-Kahn did it?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 09:05 AM
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33. Holler!
:yourock:
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lonestarlib Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:06 PM
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4. Please don't refer to Rev Sharpton as a journalist--he's the
host or presenter of a political opinion show.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:12 PM
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8. A good reason to not watch ANYTHING on Fox News ... that too
is all opinion.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:08 PM
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5. Then you don't watch him on MSNBC, b/c he has criticized Obama.
Or looked at his decisions critically.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:17 PM
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9. I was glad to see Sharpton refrained from praising the debt deal
the clip I saw was of him interviewing Rep. Chakka Fattah, who was praising the deal. I was afraid Al was going to join in and it would become a lovefest for the disastrous legislation, but Al stayed neutral. He didn't criticize and he didn't endorse it.

That's the one clip that I saw. Elsewhere he may have said different.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:20 PM
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11. the humanity.
:cry:
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:43 PM
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12. >>>>
:spray:

Oh, & Unrec.

:rofl:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:49 PM
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13. hey! you splashed me with that water you spit out! time for some kickboxin!
:rofl: <---kickboxin

:hi:
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 05:45 PM
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18. There you go fightin' again. LOL.
Poor Al can't get no love from the "progressive" community for which he's fought his entire career. The Johnny-Come-Lately's who used to be Republicans, by the way, are the new "genuine" voice of the progressive community. Is that crazy or what? :crazy:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 09:07 AM
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34. Cenk and Ratigan are heros on DU. Very strange jou jou..
Edited on Fri Aug-12-11 09:08 AM by Kahuna
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:09 PM
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15. and brentspeak vowed to do nothing but criticize
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 04:53 PM
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17. So fucking What?
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 05:06 PM by FrenchieCat
There are those who have vowed to always criticize negatively this President, and nothing but....and I don't see you rushing to put up an OP about any of that shit?

And then there are those who vowed to criticize Bush, and never did, and I didn't see your op about that either.....

So at the end of the day, with Morning assJoe on MSNBC each and every morning, why I should give a fuck about this OP?

I'm a Democrat and 96% of the fucked up media is Republican, and you got a problem with Al Sharpton?
Almost sounds personal. Wonder why?
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:07 PM
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22. What burr is under your saddle about Al Sharpton?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:37 PM
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:27 PM
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24. Well aren't you just the special one.. saving up my ops from last year.. I am so PROUD
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 07:29 PM by Peacetrain
Hell I don't remember last year what Cenk was being an asshat that day about..

But since he is a former self avowed right winger.. He and Ratigan both let their little inner wingers fly loose from time to time.. I am sure it was a dilly

But in true BS fashion, you have avoided the question.. What is the burr under your saddle about Al?


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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 08:43 PM
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26. "Burrs under the saddle" and MSNBC hosts? Is this your old thread?
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x398409">Peactrain: Cenk you are an A$$HAT!...

As for...

"But in true BS fashion, you have avoided the question.. What is the burr under your saddle about Al?"

The answer has already been provided in the very first post of the thread (my post). I suggest you actually try reading OP's before responding to them.

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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:00 PM
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28. Oh you brought it back.. thank you.. I need to journal that one
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 09:04 PM by Peacetrain
I read it..you have a burr about Al because you think what? Al Sharpton is not a journalist nor has he ever claimed to be one..

Although it's unlikely Sharpton won't provide any criticism of Obama; he's certain to include a bit of mild, kid-gloves critique to create the facade of tough, journalistic objectivity.

EDIT TO ADD... I did not alert on you to get that post deleted.. Me thinks they deleted it because of your "if you can read" snark.. just a guess..
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:46 PM
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29. He is unwatchable
and I have tried to watch and enjoy his show. The constant pausing is too annoying-and that combined with his teleprompter issues makes it hard to watch. If he's still on in a few months I will check it out and see if he has improved as a host.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:51 PM
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30. I guess he really really doesn't like the right wing.
I wonder why.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 12:06 AM
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31. The cake is a lie.
"Have you told other blacks not to criticize him publically?" Stahl asked.

"What I've told them is to be genuine about it."

But hey, go ahead and assume that Leslie Stahl is Al Sharpton, and her words are his.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 09:02 AM
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32. He saves his fire for the gop where it belongs. nt
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 09:56 AM
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35. Lots of white self-professed 'liberals' hate Rev. Al.
Nothing really new there.

Any excuse for more hate is a good one.

Rev. Al was never a Republican, like Cenk, Ed, etc., who all the 'liberals' seem to adore for some reason.

They can't seem to trust any other former Republican, just the Fifth Columnist type.

Speaks volumes about their lack of judgment.
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