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Kevin Spidel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 12:10 AM
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Data mining good when it's Obama?
Voter file data + marketing data + semantic (social web) data = http://www.kdnuggets.com/jobs/11/07-13-obama2012-predictive-modeling-data-mining-scientists-analysts.html

Develop and build statistical/predictive/machine learning models to assist in field, digital media, paid media and fundraising operations
Assess the performance of previous models and determine when these models should be updated
Design and execute experiments to test the applicability and validity of these models in the field
Create metrics to assess performance of various campaign tactics
Collaborate with the data team to improve existing database and suggest new data sources
Work with stakeholders to identify other research needs and priorities
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Kevin Spidel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 01:06 AM
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1. i am honesty curious...
brilliant, or scary? what is the pulse here? this is huge! either way!
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 01:08 AM
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2. Wow. "Analysts are charged with predicting the behavior of the American electorate"
We could have used some of those three years ago to predict the behavior of the guy we elected.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 01:35 PM
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9. It's part and parcel of polling.
I have to say, I find the "Buyer's Remorse" around here very amusing.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 04:27 PM
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10. The coming Obama Medicare & Social Security cuts will probably just tickle you to death.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 08:54 PM
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11. You get back to me when your "sky is falling" predictions come true. NT
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 05:30 AM
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12. See, that's the thing.
I make an observation—based on recorded events and on what the president has said—that there are going to be cuts to social programs, and you characterize it as something more. Using hyperbole to make it sound as if I has said something else. That's dishonest of you.

I never would have thought, in 2008, that a Democratic president would even entertain the thought of chipping away at Social Security benefits and raising the Medicare eligibility age. And probably neither did you. But in 2011, here we are.

The buyers' remorse doesn't come from 'not getting everything we wanted as fast as we wanted'. It comes from a Democratic president giving away what we've already got.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 10:25 AM
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13. Yep, that is INDEED the thing; take a hard look in the mirror
If there are any cuts to Social Security and Medicare (YOUR precise phrasing)--as opposed to the generic "social programs" that you are using now, in backpedaling fashion, why, you get back to me. You can then show me how Obama left the poor and middle class in the dirt. Then we'll talk.

The one who is being dishonest is you. Save the gloom and doom for someone who buys the anxiety and agita "What IF?" BS.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 07:03 PM
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14. The social programs I was referring to are Social Security and Medicare, just as I said.
I meant no different. The cuts to Social Security and Medicare are coming. When the cuts to Social Security and Medicare come, it's up to you to show me how Obama kept Social Security and Medicare intact for the middle class. Who rely on Social Security and Medicare just as much as the poor rely on Social Security and Medicare. Anxiety and agita will be yours as well as mine, Madem, whether you buy it or not. YOUR Social Security and YOUR Medicare. Live in your fantasy world as long as you can. Because the changes (to Social Security and Medicare, in case I wasn't clear enough) are coming.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:34 AM
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15. I will say it again--you be sure to get back to me when that happens.
And don't even cry if the only people who get screwed are millionaires. I only want to hear from you if the poor and middle class end up getting a royal screwing.
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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 01:15 AM
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3. Really struck by this part...
Their ad...

Using statistical predictive modeling, the Democratic Party's comprehensive political database, and publicly available data, modeling analysts are charged with predicting the behavior of the American electorate. These models will be instrumental in helping the campaign determine which voters to target for turnout and persuasion efforts, where to buy advertising and how to best approach digital media.

My response...

How about throwing all these models out the window and just doing what's best for America by supporting traditional Democratic and American values? Stand behind Social Security and Medicare, get a jobs bill passed, pass real healthcare reform. Then you won't need any of this crap.

Just a thought.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 02:09 AM
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5. kr
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 02:32 AM
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6. If you use facebook or have a google account, your ass is being "data mined" till the cows come
home.

You don't want to be "data mined?" Don't leave a footprint on the net or elsewhere. Of course, that might mean you can't avail yourself of some of the conveniences of technology, or participate in the small d-democratic process.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 04:20 AM
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7. You can also just use fake information everywhere.
My facebook says I'm over 90 years old, live a hundred miles from where I actually do, and the name is a nickname that only people that know me personally would know. I'm not so much a data mine as a data sewer: No matter how much they dig they're just going to haul out a bucket of feces.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 01:33 PM
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8. They will mine what you talk about and target ads to you.
Even if they don't get your name right. I don't give 'em a damn thing, either.
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