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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 12:28 PM
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Michael Taylor was named to the FDA in July 2009
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 12:34 PM
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1. No sorry didn't you know he is evil, anyone who works anywhere must hold the values of that company
Edited on Thu Aug-18-11 12:34 PM by DFab420
even when they stop working there. We are all doomed. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 12:35 PM
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2. ROFL
:spray:


:thumbsup:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 04:57 PM
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 06:40 PM
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13. !! Deleted msg? If only I had checked sooner. Was someone being mean?
Who could be mean to bender?
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 12:45 PM
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3. And had previous government experience before that.
But, he's eeeeeeeeeeeevvvviiiiilllllllllll!!!!
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 05:54 PM
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12. he's stealthed evil ninja gluten killer
what kind of people does Obama associate with! people that research for safer food!

o cheeses cripes! I knew he wasn't gouda.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 02:52 PM
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4. I try not to think about things that happened more than two weeks ago.
Otherwise my head starts to hurt.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 04:54 PM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 05:13 PM
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7. Nutty! n/t
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 05:17 PM
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8. Pawned! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 05:21 PM
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9. LOL!
Goofy!

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 05:38 PM
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10. Since when is it her responsibility to put out an announcement on every nomination
- and to research completely their backgrounds. There were hundreds of nominations in 2009. It would be a full time job - maybe for more than one person to do this.

Where was YOUR announcement/protest from 2009 on this?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 07:54 PM
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14. watch this
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-world-according-to-monsanto/

then tell me this appointment is a good thing

"There’s nothing they are leaving untouched: the mustard, the okra, the bringe oil, the rice, the cauliflower. Once they have established the norm: that seed can be owned as their property, royalties can be collected. We will depend on them for every seed we grow of every crop we grow. If they control seed, they control food, they know it – it’s strategic. It’s more powerful than bombs. It’s more powerful than guns. This is the best way to control the populations of the world. The story starts in the White House, where Monsanto often got its way by exerting disproportionate influence over policymakers via the “revolving door”. One example is Michael Taylor, who worked for Monsanto as an attorney before being appointed as deputy commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 1991. While at the FDA, the authority that deals with all US food approvals, Taylor made crucial decisions that led to the approval of GE foods and crops. Then he returned to Monsanto, becoming the company’s vice president for public policy.

Thanks to these intimate links between Monsanto and government agencies, the US adopted GE foods and crops without proper testing, without consumer labeling and in spite of serious questions hanging over their safety. Not coincidentally, Monsanto supplies 90 percent of the GE seeds used by the US market. Monsanto’s long arm stretched so far that, in the early nineties, the US Food and Drugs Agency even ignored warnings of their own scientists, who were cautioning that GE crops could cause negative health effects. Other tactics the company uses to stifle concerns about their products include misleading advertising, bribery and concealing scientific evidence."

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this appt cannot be defended, no matter how godlike Obama is in the eyes of his most ardent supporters.

Even Gods make mistakes.




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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:57 AM
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17. But ya gotta love a guy who says that a new technology, that is, GM foods,
Edited on Fri Aug-19-11 01:57 AM by truedelphi
Are scientifically proven as safe, because he is Mike Taylor, and he says so!

The old days of testing food substances for decades before declaring them safe - that is just so Twentieth Century!

And obviously this is impressing the Japanese officials now overseeing the Fukushima situation, who have announced that if you think postitive things about the water or food you eat from radiation- contaminated areas, those positive thoughts will mitigate any effects of the radiation!

It truly is a great and wonderful world. In fact the future is so bright, we gotta wear shades!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 08:02 AM
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18. Did I say anything about the quality of the appointment? NO, I didn't
I was objecting to the harassment of a DU poster by another DU poster.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 08:29 AM
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 10:18 AM
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20. "It"???? Since when do you call people "it"
Edited on Fri Aug-19-11 10:19 AM by karynnj
I have not commented on the appointment because I do not feel that I have any insight or any information not already here. I was reading the thread to gain information and many of your links are troubling on this appointee.

Because it MIGHT be a bad nomination, I would prefer to wait until I can see the hearing or get more information of positions that he, not Montsanto, has on various issues. I worry that there is too much of a tendency to label everyone who worked for certain companies without attempting to see who they really are. ( disclaimer - I worked for AT&T, yet that does not mean that I was not horrified by the FISA stuff - that was 180 degrees from corporate policy when I worked there - in addition, it was an AT&T employee who was the whistle blower.)

That does not mean that I do not value the articles that you and others posted. Some of which I had the time to read.

I was appalled by the lack of civility in the unwarranted attack on Prosense, who I know and respect. I read Brentspeaks threads with frustration as my view is that he always takes the most negative possible interpretation of Obama's motives and actions. Just as Prosense takes the opposite tack of finding the best interpretation. Both are equally valid - and it is likely Brentspeak that is more extreme in the sources he is willing to use. The articles pulled in by both have their value. I would suggest that Prosense's threads are extremely needed as they always contain real substance and they are a needed grounding for people otherwise reading emotion laden threads that are expecting the worst of Obama and most Democrats in what is a deeply troubled difficult time.

I think this is a time where Obama and others need us to have their backs. That does not mean never criticizing and certainly it does not mean to blindly follow, but it does mean to give people who earned it enough trust that we accept that at least their motives are reasonable. (Note that even Obama allies in the Senate publicly said that "this was not the deal they would make", but they did not attack Obama's values or abilities.)
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 05:13 PM
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22. there's a fine line between "best interpretation"
and propaganda.

And we disagree on that poster's value to this site.


can I say that?

Will I get yet another post deleted?


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I have been following Monsanto and this appointee for years. He is the poster child, AFAIC, for what is wrong with the political culture in Washington. The revolving door is one of the things that Obama promised to "change". This guy has been through it, not just once, but twice. This appointment is incomprehensible.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 05:56 PM
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24. I would guess that you have had about the same proportion of posts deleted as I have
Edited on Fri Aug-19-11 05:58 PM by karynnj
- ie very few. It wasn't me who alerted as I preferred to respond. I don't think this will be, though I strongly disagree because I have often learned things I did not know from the articles posted.

As I said, I knew nothing of the appointee until reading this thread. I do see a problem with the revolving door, especially when it swings back and forth many times.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 05:48 PM
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11. thank you yet again.
I knew the spittle flying and hysteria was not quite as illustrated as truth.

they just need some lung/keyboard exercises I suppose.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:22 AM
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15. I like how the official White House release fails to mention
that he worked for Monsanto, not just once, but twice.

"The story starts in the White House, where Monsanto often got its way by exerting disproportionate influence over policymakers via the “revolving door”. One example is Michael Taylor, who worked for Monsanto as an attorney before being appointed as deputy commissioner of the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in 1991. While at the FDA, the authority that deals with all US food approvals, Taylor made crucial decisions that led to the approval of GE foods and crops. Then he returned to Monsanto, becoming the company’s vice president for public policy.

Thanks to these intimate links between Monsanto and government agencies, the US adopted GE foods and crops without proper testing, without consumer labeling and in spite of serious questions hanging over their safety. Not coincidentally, Monsanto supplies 90 percent of the GE seeds used by the US market. Monsanto’s long arm stretched so far that, in the early nineties, the US Food and Drugs Agency even ignored warnings of their own scientists, who were cautioning that GE crops could cause negative health effects. Other tactics the company uses to stifle concerns about their products include misleading advertising, bribery and concealing scientific evidence."

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-world-according-to-monsanto/




This appointment is absolute fucking bullshit. As was the 2009 one. Read some links (should I make them blue?) - find out just who and what you are defending here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Taylor
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:47 AM
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16. here's another link for you
Edited on Fri Aug-19-11 12:47 AM by paulk
if you're really interested in finding out more about Mr. Taylor instead of just repeating whatever talking points are handed out -

http://kevinpmiller.blogspot.com/2008/11/return-performance-for-michael-r-taylor.html

and this is particularly apropos, since it refers to his 2009 appointment -




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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 10:52 AM
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21. "since it refers to his 2009 appointment"
So it wasn't a recent appointment?

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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 05:15 PM
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23. do you have a point?
I mention that the article refers to that appt because that's the one you mention in your OP.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 12:10 AM
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25. The corporate stooge is still there
Is that your point? That Obama retains industry lobbyists to formulate favorable regulations for big business at the expense of ordinary people?

I agree with that.
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