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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:12 PM
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"We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately"
true still today
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:16 PM
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1. but WHO should I hang with?
not too interested in hanging with people who support Republican policy.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:25 PM
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3. then join me
the best way to stop republican policies is to load our congress with liberal democrats
i will work toward that goal almost exclusively this election cycle
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:39 PM
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6. and when liberal candidates are squashed by the party infrastructure
in favor of the third-way conservadems?
what then?
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:47 PM
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7. cut it off at the pass
dont give your time to the party or your money
give it directly to candidates that will address your issues
this is my plan
if i phonebank or walk or do GOTV driving i will do it only if the candidates i approve are involved
the party will survive without my cash support for a short while and the people i am going to work for will appreciate it more if it comes direct

unless we force it left it will keep turning right and now it turns right so quickly its becoming the norm
if we expect to be heard we have to be heard in congress that is where the law is made
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:52 PM
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8. good I agree with you
what I DON'T agree with are calls to "hang together" with the type of people who are driving this party farther and farther to the right
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 12:44 AM
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10. oops lol
just posted a franklin quote somewhere on here
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YellowCosmicSun Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 12:00 AM
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9. don't you mean cut it off at the knees?
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 12:45 AM
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11. no
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 02:12 AM
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15. We need to PLEDGE not to vote for any candidate who takes corporate money -- !!
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 11:33 PM
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18. the only pledge i will tie myself to is lemon fresh
i dont believe in loyalty oaths
the very fact they exist shows how well they work
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 02:07 AM
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14. Eh ... then how is it that the GOP with just a House majority is controlling EVERYTHING...???
Edited on Mon Sep-12-11 02:10 AM by defendandprotect
And when Obama had a huge mandate -- and Dems had ..;.

Presidency --

Senate --

House --

Democrats could do nothing --------- ?????


You know, after a while of watching the Magican, no matter how good the act,

most people begin to question what's really going on!!

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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 11:39 PM
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19. i really do wish i had an answer for that
but i dont
i want to replace the dems in congress with liberal/progressive candidates and to make that happen i will give directly to those candidates so as to dilute the national parties control over them
i will not give to the national party again until it returns to its senses
until we can make that happen we need to work to put the people in office who will believe as we believe and will propose laws we will be glad to see passed
i cant answer your questions and i apologize
i have no power in these events so usually i am as baffled as you seem to be
i want to stop wars and rebuild our nation
i want to see our veterens and seniors allowed to have dignified lives
i know the way we have been going is not going to work so i will commit myself to changing what i can and electing those who will do the same
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 02:05 AM
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13. With those who aren't violent -- and who don't support violence --
from coups, to torture - to illegal wars!!

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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 11:46 PM
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21. exactly
when we go along with what the party wants we forget we are the party
i wont give them my money anymore
i have a guy here (super red florida) who is on the edge of running but, because he has been told by the national and state party that he is not expected to win he will not be getting support funds,he is hesitant
instead of giving my money and time to a party organization to decide where it goes i am taaking it into my own hands and giving directly
its as much as i can give when i can
maybe enough to buy a hundred roadside signs in bulk
the state and nationals will starve as far as i care
who said "all politics are local".....?
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:25 PM
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2. Very true, my dear SwampG8r...
I like how you think...

Recommended.

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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:26 PM
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4. lol
you just like THAT i think if you are like most of the women i know
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 11:28 PM
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5. Most of the men *I* know are intelligent...
You are no exception!

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 02:04 AM
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12. Exactly -- and we won't get anything accomplished until we do -- as labor, vs oil/coal industry --
on unions -- Social Security -- Medicare -- and Global Warming --

Four very major issues --


What we have to understand is that we are where we are now because of RW political

violence over 50 and more years -- It is the only way the RW can rise, historically --


Computers and wealth, of course, and lies play a role --

But it is the violence, coups, "false flag" operations like 9/11 which give them

increasing power over our government --



"Congress is controlled by the oil and coal industries" -- Al Gore/Rolling Stone


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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 11:49 PM
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22. florida .....sigh ....
we need help down here
right to work state with more dems registered than gop
floridians see it as a state tradition to vote against their own best interests
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In Jest Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 02:40 AM
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16. We are ALL hung
Some of us more than others.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 11:53 PM
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23. all men are not created equal?
welcome to du
dont let them spank you too hard
they are rough on newbes in here
keep your nose clean and help us all out
if you see a stupid eruption do not
i repeat do not
throw more stupid on it
we have been experimenting with the proper amount of stupid allowed in each stupburst and it upsets the balance
good luck and welcome in
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 09:04 PM
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17. Actually ...
it's quite lame when you think it through.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 11:53 PM
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24. well i guess we all have something to say
thanks for contributing
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 11:42 PM
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20. Except for those who have already been thrown under the bus.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 11:57 PM
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25. i have tire tracks all over me
i am saying until we exert control and see that people who are elected actually will represent us
we cash starve them give directly
pick who in your district will see things your way and make them the candidate
thats what i will do
i am a multiple bus victim
what i am proposing is
instead of being under the busses we become the busdrivers
never see a busdriver under a bus do you?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 11:59 PM
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26. "never see a busdriver under a bus do you?"
Only when he doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

Not only do I have the tire tracks, the tires are still on me.
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