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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 09:07 AM
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A pregnant woman with a health crisis on Romney - "at the time he was blind to me as a human being"
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 09:08 AM by Pirate Smile
Mitt by the bedside

By Ben Smith - 10/16/11 @ 7:10 PM ET

An unusual anecdote from the Times:

In 1990, Exponent II, a Mormon feminist magazine that Ms. Dushku, the Suffolk University professor, helped found, published an article by a married mother of four who recounted her own experience after doctors advised her to terminate her pregnancy when she was being treated for a potentially dangerous blood clot.

Her bishop got wind of the situation, she wrote, and showed up unannounced at the hospital, warning her sternly not to go forward. The article did not identify Mr. Romney as the bishop, but Ms. Dushku later did.


Now the woman has come forward, identifying herself in Mr. Scott’s book as Carrel Hilton Sheldon. (Through Ms. Dushku, she declined to be interviewed.) “Mitt has many, many winning qualities,” she is quoted as saying, “but at the time he was blind to me as a human being.”

http://mobile.politico.com/iphone/blog/1011/68699.html
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 09:12 AM
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1. He's a dead man walking. n/t
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 09:41 AM
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2. That is Eliza Dushku's mother
Just saying.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:27 AM
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6. Who is Eliza Dushku?
And what difference does it make?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 12:59 PM
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7. She is an actress
And a very good one too.

If you find my point irrelevant, then move along.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 01:48 PM
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8. Wow
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 01:48 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
it sure is. I didn't figure that her last name would be all that common. Interesting trivia note from IMDB: She has Mormon grandfather who once went after her agent because he didn't approve of a scene she did on Buffy. :eyes:

So, Romney was once a "Bishop" in the Mormon church???? :shrug:
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:05 AM
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3. This will endear him to "the base" because they are insane nt
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:21 AM
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4. spread it far and wide
:kick: & Rec
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:23 AM
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5. Most Religions Are Patriachal But Mormonism Is Especially So
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 02:40 PM
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9. Oh man ... Read this:
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 03:14 PM by Pirate Smile
http://jessicavalenti.tumblr.com/post/11573313179/mitt-romney-to-woman-with-a-life-threatening-pregnancy

Mitt Romney to woman with a life-threatening pregnancy: “Why do you get off easy when other women have their babies?”

I’ve noticed that some blogs and publications have taken notice of a particular section from this New York Times piece on Mitt Romney and abortion:

Mormons oppose abortion, except in extreme cases like rape, incest or where the life of the woman is in danger — and require that church elders be consulted. In 1990, Exponent II, a Mormon feminist magazine that Ms. Dushku, the Suffolk University professor, helped found, published an article by a married mother of four who recounted her own experience after doctors advised her to terminate her pregnancy when she was being treated for a potentially dangerous blood clot. Her bishop got wind of the situation, she wrote, and showed up unannounced at the hospital, warning her sternly not to go forward.

The article did not identify Mr. Romney as the bishop, but Ms. Dushku later did. Now the woman has come forward, identifying herself in Mr. Scott’s book as Carrel Hilton Sheldon. (Through Ms. Dushku, she declined to be interviewed.) “Mitt has many, many winning qualities,” she is quoted as saying, “but at the time he was blind to me as a human being.”


Dushku may have declined an interview, but Feministing posted about this incident in 2007, linking to an interview with Dushku where she recounted the whole horrible story:

It was in the late 1970s. She was a woman about 40 years old, 3 ½ to 4 months into her sixth pregnancy. We’ll call her woman “X”. She was an active member of the ward where Romney was bishop in Massachusetts, at that time in a neighboring community where I was not a member. The stake president was a doctor named Gordon and was an old friend of X. X and her husband went to the hospital because she had an aching in her leg. Her doctor was alarmed after examining her, telling her she had developed blood clots and could not carry the pregnancy to full term. He said they’d have to give her blood thinners in order to get rid of the clots and that they would endanger the baby. X had lost her first baby; the child was born with many physical problems and died at two or three weeks old. X was already the mother of four teenage children. This would have been her sixth.

…First of all the stake president – Gordon – came by to see X with a friend and said well it looks like you have to do this – terminate the pregnancy. He was perfectly comfortable with X’s decision, since both she and the child were in peril. And Gordon was technically higher in the LDS church hierarchy than Mitt was as bishop.

So then Mitt came in to the hospital. X thought Mitt had come to be comforting because that’s what bishops do. They have a pastoral role. But she said that instead he was critical.

He said – What do you think you’re doing?

She said – Well, we have to abort the baby because I have these blood clots.

And he said something to the effect of – Well, why do you get off easy when other women have their babies?

And she said – What are you talking about? This is a life threatening situation.

And he said – Well what about the life of the baby?

And she said – I have four other children and I think it would be really irresponsible to continue the pregnancy.

X said she found herself arguing with Romney about her medical crisis, said he was very unsympathetic, very critical, and said that under the circumstances in no way did he condone her aborting the child. And he left


The woman then left the church (can’t imagine why). So there you have it: Mitt Romney’s compassionate counseling. 


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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:59 PM
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12. Holy shit. n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 07:41 PM
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13. I know. n/t
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:32 PM
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15. Blood clot or not, I'd have got up from there and smacked him.
ffs he's a dangerous imbecile. :grr:
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:09 PM
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10. K&R revealing info about the REAL MITT
Scary.

Wasn't there some story years ago about Mitt's heartless attitude towards animals? Something about the family dog???? Does anybody have links?

I do believe most people sense something cold and strange about Mitt even if we didn't know exactly what it is.

Here's what I've figured out: people who have all their hopes invested in 'heaven', 'eternal life' and other unprovable religious fantasies,, are not fully invested in living fully in the 'real world' in the only life a person can be certain about.

For some people following the dictates of their church and conception of a deity is a duty. They don't feel any real compassion towards people in the here and now. The world to come is more real to them. To me, that is the 'delusional' part of religion.

I am a Christian. I hope there is a heaven, and a rewarding life in a spiritual realm. I personally believe and am committed to the teachings of Jesus in the Bible. But as for the rest of the bible, it is chock full of tribalism, contradictions and prejudices. from a literary point of view, the bible has some important stories and poetry. As with the works of Shakespeare, we need to know it.

As literature the Book of Mormon is quirky fantasy. :7
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:05 PM
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14. He seems like might have some of Dubya's sociopathic pleasure in others' pain.
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 10:07 PM by Arugula Latte
And, yes, he himself wrote about strapping the family dog to the roof of their car and driving on the freeway for several hours. The dog pooped all over himself out of fear.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1638065,00.html
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 04:46 PM
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11. He has a lot of secrets in his closet
I still maintain, that Obama and crew want Romney to be the nominee. Not only was he a shitty governor. But its secrets like this
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:25 PM
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16. Surprisingly, the other Republicans really aren't even laying a glove on him and he is a very weird,
odd guy. The Bain Capitol stuff - he was a vulture capitalist. I don't see that going over well. I do think more will come out. The Republicans seem willing to let it be the Democrats who will have to bring it up - and we will.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:55 PM
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17. Horrible story. And I suspect Mitt is blind to most people as human beings. n/t
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