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mr715 Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:02 AM
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Does Barack Obama deserve another Nobel prize?
Helping to dismantle the cold war nuke orgy was worth one... How about one for catalyzing a series of revolutions that resulted in the greatest exhalation of liberty in a generation?

Or maybe give it to Secretary Clinton...?
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:06 AM
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1. ?
He doesn't deserve the first one.


If anyone deserves one it is Jullian Assange.
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mr715 Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:09 AM
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3. I don't know why, but Mr. Assange never seemed deserving to me
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:12 AM
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5. Obama did?
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mr715 Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:22 AM
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7. I'm not sure
Obama got the Nobel more for what he represented than necessarily what he did, but he still did stuff. No, I would agree with you he was not the most deserving in the world. Howeva' I think he was a fair person to consider.

Assange, I honestly always got the sense that his motivation was more to undermine than to liberate. But that's based on just an impression. I don't really know how his work spread peace, liberty, and all that good stuff... It certainly made a bunch of governments really embarrassed, but..... Well, tell me what you think please.



MR
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:40 AM
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9. Part of why he got it was because of what he DID while he was a U.S. Senator
Edited on Sun Oct-23-11 01:01 AM by Tx4obama

Part of why Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize was for efforts on nuclear disarmament/non-proliferation


The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009

The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.

For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."

Oslo, October 9, 2009

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html

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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 11:30 AM
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22. +1
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:41 AM
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10. Yes, he did deserve it. See my comment - #10. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:22 AM
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 12:37 AM
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30. He should now. Wikileaks and Bradley Manning are the reason
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:12 AM
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4. +1
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:26 AM
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 05:55 AM
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13. Agreed! n/t
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 11:26 AM
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21. +1
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:07 AM
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2. I'm keeping my eyes on the 'get out the vote' prize, for what it's worth.
Someone else can take care of the rest. :hi:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:53 AM
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11. Nope, neither.
I think Obama will have earned his if he gets a second term.

I think the most recent prize indicated the direction of future prizes - those unsung heroes on the ground who are actually making a huge difference.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 04:32 AM
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12. Considering the first one was pre-emptive, no.
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MjolnirTime Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 09:04 AM
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14. Definitely.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 09:07 AM
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15. For what? Significant contributions to the advancement of predator drones?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 09:35 AM
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16. Bingo.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 09:53 AM
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 11:24 AM
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20. No, I really don't like it when he launches predator drones.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 02:31 AM
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32. Same as the first.
De-escalating wars and stockpiles of indiscriminate weapons around the world.

Though, come to think of it, Predator drones are a huge part of that.

Rather than send hundreds, or thousands, or hundreds of thousands, of people to their death in physical combat, use a Predator...... It winds up killing many less people, to prevent and control the loss of life that comes from open warfare.

Of course, it will be even better with better optics, and targeting, when we can take out just *one* person, remotely, with the same accuracy as a decent sniper at 50 yards.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 09:40 AM
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17. You're crediting the prez with OWS?
The people are protesting his policies, among other things. Seriously, this is akin to the Repukes insisting that Reagan killed the USSR. Why are you intentionally starting flame wars?
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MjolnirTime Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 09:53 AM
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19. Obama had a big hand in the Arab Spring.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 01:07 PM
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23. No, and if he's offered one, if I were him I'd refuse it.
The media--and an alarming number of "liberals" managed to turn it into a net negative for him.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 02:23 PM
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24. What????
He didn't even deserve the first one!!!!

:eyes:


:7
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 02:26 PM
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25. FUCK NO! EOM.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 03:09 PM
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26. Well he's more than earned the first one he's got. We'll see if he deserves another based on what
else he does.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 05:23 PM
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27. He didn't deserve the first one. nt
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 06:29 PM
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28. Nope, one is a net overdose for a guy that makes Cheney look soft and rudderless
in martial matters.

He deserves consideration for war crimes for covering for the previous administration and his own carrying their ball forward.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 11:32 PM
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29. Rec'ing not only for the audacity of the question
but because of the absolutely panicked responses within.

People are so freaked out by your question that they are thinking you are referring to OWS when you mention a "great exhalation of liberty." That by itself has made me lao.

But I tell you one thing -- I am willing to bet everything that I have in my pocket right now that you are BY NO MEANS the only person asking this question.
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mr715 Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 04:56 PM
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35. I am deeply confused.
I appreciate your glowing words but I thought given "thank you NATO America" on streets in Libya and stuff, it would be understood I was writing about the Arab spring.

And why are people freaking about my question.

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 06:25 PM
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38. Saying fuck no is not "freaking out".
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 06:39 PM
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41. Praise of anything Obama does is cause for panic around here among those invested
in constantly portraying him as something evil or undeserving. Many of us have long since stopped caring about the opinions of these people.

And Libya was not the only country that thanked the US after their uprisings.
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 12:49 AM
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31. I'd love to see that happen...
Just to see all the heads explode.

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 04:38 AM
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33. This isn't a worthy topic.....
Sorry, that's just the way I feel about it.
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 12:24 PM
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34. lol... didn't deserve the first one either... nt
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 05:12 PM
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36. Only if FDR was getting one.
I'll just let that hang ....
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 05:40 PM
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37. Catalyzed the revolutions of Arab Spring?
A bit of an exaggeration, don't you think?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 06:39 PM
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42. That's for sure! I think the people there had rather a lot to do with that.
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pmorlan1 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 06:31 PM
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39. lol
I want whatever it is that you're smoking. lol
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pmorlan1 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 06:34 PM
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40. lol
Edited on Mon Oct-24-11 06:37 PM by pmorlan1
This was a duplicate post. Still laughing though. lol
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