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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:45 PM
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Team Romney uses Hillary against Obama
By MAGGIE HABERMAN | 11/28/11 10:22 PM EST Updated: 11/29/11 5:08 AM EST

Meet the new playbook, same as the McCain '08 playbook?

The Mitt Romney campaign tonight sent an email from communications director Gail Gitcho, invoking Hillary Clinton as a sympathetic figure and attempting to put a wedge based on the 2008 campaign between the Secretary of State's supporters in swing states and the president.

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That battle left Clinton's supporters embittered and angry, and back then, John McCain sought to use lingering animosity to his advantage - suggesting his then-Senate colleague was treated poorly by Team Obama. It didn't work, and if anything it angered Democrats who, even if they hadn't voted for Obama in the primaries, wanted him to win over a Republican in the fall.

Of course, what has come between then and now is the Obama presidency, which is the case the Romney campaign is making, in the hopes of appealing to the Hillary Democrats and independents with whom the president has been struggling.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/69270.html



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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:48 PM
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1. Seems a little early to be throwing that desperate Hail Mary pass
Maybe try focusing on your crumbling GOP #'s there, Willard...
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:55 PM
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3. He does seem more and more desperate - almost as if he's terrified of...
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 04:56 PM by polichick
...his insane Republican opponents.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:51 AM
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24. Sufferin' Succotash! Mitt Romney desperate!
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 12:55 AM by ellisonz
Like 10s of millions of dollars desperate. Afraid of the rabble!

Dear Mitt Romney,

You will never be loved by the voters because you do not love yourself. Your father was a smarter, better man. He never would have put the family dog in a crate on top of his car. You probably couldn't even get elected as town dogcatcher. Apologize to the American people and just go home.

Sincerely,

Democratic Underground.


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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 10:22 AM
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27. He must have a major hangup about not measuring up - it would be so much more fun...
...to simply relax at his California beach house.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:52 PM
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2. There are only a handful of the hardcore left. Chris Hayes calls them the demiglace of crazy.
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 05:00 PM by AtomicKitten
Mittens' predicted yield on what he no doubt feels is a political smooth move is somewhere between insignificant and pointless.


* edited to add predicted
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:59 PM
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4. And you love it, don't you? Unrec'd!
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:04 PM
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5. LOL
:spray:
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 07:40 AM
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26. Nothing funny about it. It's pathetic!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 07:05 PM
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16. Every OP ... flame-baity.
Predictable. Transparant.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 07:24 PM
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17. Hit alert.
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 07:25 PM by Cali_Democrat
Try to get the "flame-baity" articles locked.


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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 07:37 PM
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18. Nah.
Enjoy your fun.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 07:41 PM
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19. ...
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:57 AM
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25. ...
That's funny.

:spray:
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:12 PM
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6. Yea ... Hillary Dems will vote for Romney!!!! Bwahahahaha!!!!
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:19 PM
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7. apologies
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 05:23 PM by Enrique
i badly misread your post. :blush:

I agree with your mockery of this tactic. It's delusional.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:27 PM
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9. Np ... I think it demonstrates a desperation on the GOP side.
After all ... they HATE Hillary ... they accused her of killing Vince Foster ... but now they claim she would be better than Obama.

They have no ethics, no morals, no standards. They will do or say anything if they think it might help them politically.

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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:19 PM
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8. That is soooooooo 2008
According to Talking Points Memo, he is also using the words spoken (in 2008) by the current DNC Chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, to attack President Obama now. I don't understand why words spoken in 2008 would have any logical relevance to now, particularly since President Obama has a fairly impressive record as POTUS that he's managed to build up since then but that's Romney for you. :eyes: :shrug:
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:36 PM
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10. I think it all ties into the "Obama is having trouble with white women" angle
that the media has tossed out on numerous occasions.

First, they'll invoke Hillary, patron saint of embittered white female Democrats. (I am in no way suggesting that all white female Dems are embittered, but for alot of the ones that are, Hillary's loss to Obama is the reason.)

Then they'll try to use DW-S' words against the president. Then they'll find a way to work in Lady Evelyn (BigotBasher has done some absolutely HYSTERICAL exposes on her) and Jane Hamsher (BB has skewered her as well).

Voila! Instant meme.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 05:45 PM
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11. The media keeps spewing out these stories
that suggest that he's having problems with some group or another based on a few carefully selected anecdotes but then they get debunked by polls that show that he is actually o.k. with them.

I find it interesting that Romney is doing this now just after last week (or was it the week before, I keep losing track), you had those two Fox News "Democratic pollsters" suggesting that Obama give up the Presidency to Hillary.

Any "dead enders" still clutching their pearls of hate for President Obama for beating Hillary in 2008 are surely few and far between, right? :shrug:
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:40 PM
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14. My goodness, you'd sure like to think that, huh?
Any "dead enders" still clutching their pearls of hate for President Obama for beating Hillary in 2008 are surely few and far between, right?

But I have been absolutely astounded at the number of Dems that are determined to hold onto that grudge so tight and for so long until it becomes part of their anatomy. Remember Geraldine Ferraro went to her grave STILL pissed about the president for beating Hillary. And as you mentioned, those two "Dem" strategists were stirring up this tired shit just last week or so.

And we all know that there are a number of DUers that may as well come out and say that they will NEVER forgive Obama for beating Hillary. It's been THREE DAMN YEARS and all of these folks are almost as pissed today as they were when it happened. You just want to grab them by the hair and scream "GET OVER IT ALREADY FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!"
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 07:50 PM
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20. Perhaps I am mistaken
Outside of maybe one or two people that I've seen here on DU I don't really know a lot of people whom are still holding a grudge about Obama beating Clinton in 2008 but I guess that the media and the right wouldn't still be trying to stir things up if they didn't think that they still could. Truth is, I don't think that it's going to amount to much in the end. Unless Clinton herself was actually trying to put herself in a position to possibly primary Obama in 2012 (which she does not appear to be), then it's likely not to go anywhere.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 08:14 PM
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22. I think you're absolutely right
Hillary hasn't expressed (as far as I know) any interest or desire in being president. She has openly stated that she is NOT running for president ever again. So I agree that none of this is going to go anywhere.

This whole thing doesn't appear to be anything more than people trying to peel away the president's white support. As has been noted, McCain tried to do the same thing in 2008.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 08:02 PM
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21. Not "embittered." Not clutching to any grudge. But one of many who are more convinced than ever
that Hillary would have been the better choice in 08.

If Romney thinks that will translate into votes for him in 2012, however, he will be disappointed.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:39 AM
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23. I think there are about three left and they all post here.
The rumor machine has burped out plots since 1-20-09 of having the president step aside or the VP step aside or the surreal suggestion of a switcheroo, various machinations to install Hillary in the WH. I imagine the barking will continue and increase in the countdown to election 2012. The good news is that it comes from what Chris Hayes calls the distillation of bitterness into the demiglace of crazy. The few still waxing rhapsodic were always going to vote against big bad Barack anyway so I'm fine with whoever gets the Republican nomination beating the bushes to flush out those three votes that were theirs anyway.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 10:38 AM
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28. Anybody willing to vote for a Republican
over having lost the nomination to Obama in 2008 can't have been much of a Democrat to begin with IMHO. Remember that the right was actually trying to pump up Hillary over Obama for awhile there during the primaries (Rush's "Operation Chaos").
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 01:13 PM
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29. So it would seem.
I can't imagine voting for a Republican for any reason.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 02:01 PM
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30. I've voted for a Republican for Senate (i.e. Richard Lugar)
in the past. I don't know a Republican I would EVER vote for for POTUS.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 05:45 PM
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31. "the distillation of bitterness into the demiglace of crazy"
Edited on Wed Nov-30-11 05:50 PM by Number23
Ha!! :rofl: :rofl:

That should be the motto for certain pundits as well as a few forums and posters around here!

And Edit: I wish there were only about three bitter dead enders still around. I mentioned Ferraro, Hamsher and Lady Evelyn. Can't forget Carville and we all know that those are just the tip of the iceberg. They still exist. And I honestly do believe that their sole purpose is to drive down the president's support among white people.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:19 PM
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12. Shocking!!! Not. -nt
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:31 PM
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13. Yawn! Formulaic political hack email sure to backfire.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 06:52 PM
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15. Mittens should probably be focusing on Newt at this point
Newt has really taken the lead.
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