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RepublicanElephant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:35 PM Original message |
thom hartmann "gets it"... |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. defeat of the bill means defeat for dems in 2010 |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 02:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. *en masse n/t |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. They have no real reason for not voting for it |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. No, YOU have this assbackwards. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. No YOU have it ass backwards. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. No, facts never get in the way of their arguments, but it gets in the way of those arguments working |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. No it doesn't. If that were true Fox news wouldn't have all these people |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. It's all relative. Most people wont believe it. (nt) |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Like they didn't believe that Iraq had "weapons of mass destruction?" |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Actually, that is a good example. There was no good evidence either way until March 7th 2003 |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. The political advantages of passing this thing have never been opaque. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I wonder does he get that the Dems are holding us all hostage to their selling out and failure? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Sure he does and he's talked about that. But the point the OP refers to |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. You have to turn a blind eye to our corruption and failure -so we can sell you out again 2010? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Agree and Thom would likely agree, too. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 02:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
32. They might try running on it in 2010 |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. Your picture tagline is an INSULT to the great FDR - an INSULT! -nt |
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RepublicanElephant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. wonder how fdr would react to all the democratic back-biting going on lately. nt |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Read some history - he welcomed it, while he STOOD BY HIS PRINCIPLES -nt |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Comparing this one-term disaster to FDR is just beyond belief |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Someone pointed out recently... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-26-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
44. President Obama is too busy along with his Team trying |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. The Dems problem with this bill is that it is too complex to explain to the American people |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. The number of "bona-fide" liberals who are now "endorsing" this HCR bill are |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. I think the same thing. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. Of course he does. He's mature and intellectually honest, unlike the Failers here and in the GOP. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. It would be really refreshing if some folks would give the word "reality" a rest |
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RepublicanElephant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. reality bites. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
14. Nonsense. . . Dems are throwing away success in not moving on public oiption/Medicare for all . .. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. If they can present it as success, it doesn't matter politically. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. If voters are truly as dumb as they hope they are . . . !!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I don't think voters are stupid. They're just powerless. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I was reponding to your presenting this as their "presenting this as a success" . . . |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Gotcha. But you know, I don't think they put on this theater for us |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. You think the White House response to Dean as "irrational" was intended as |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
17. I'm happy to hear this. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
20. And up is down . . . lesser evils galore . . . start over with single payer . . . |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. breathless melodrama aside here...obama obama, obama....how is it that you can't seem to fathom that |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Who stuffed Obama's pockets with corporate cash??? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. you managed to not only heighten the melodrama, but to not answer any one of my questions. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. If you keep mentioning "breathless melodrama" no one will notice |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-26-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. And, that is just a wee example |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
25. No he didn't. |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
31. A bills success or failure |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-25-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
43. Thom is 100% correct! |
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