Do not call other members of this message board "terror apologist," "Palestinian apologist," "Israeli apologist," "Nazi," "Fascist," "Sharonist," "Likudist", etc. sourceUSA_1 (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-30-11 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #116
120. ''You'll likely be gone before the week's out.''
HAHAHA!!! While that sounds like a threat it is so silly that I won't take it seriously.
You can easily look up the books I've listed previously and links to youtube to prove I know the subject quite well. I note that none of you Israeli apologists have dared to address the substance in them. Naturally, they are documented proofs by Israelis so you would be hard press to disprove them.
OK. I'll wait for your answer to them. Got a feeling it will be a long time before you do so.
Here is more truths about Israeli injustices that the news media and apologists won't tell you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guM_pU7txW4 Israelis REFUSE to fight in their terrorist wars!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=374029&mesg_id=374354USA_1 (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 10:41 AM
Response to Reply #184
187. That's the OP's Job to Do
The OP should first define what is ''liberal'' and how Israel fits that definition. DU is a liberal site and you don't see the entire board rushing to his defense in this thread which proves he never made his case.
Not being a liberal myself (lean more towards the middle) it is not entirely possible for me to give a definitive definition. But one of the key points of liberals is that more often than not they are on the side of the little guy - the underdog. They want to level the playing field so that all have an equal crack at the prize. Therefore, they push for social policies that guarantee equal access for all people. This is why they pushed for progressive legislation such as Civil Rights, Affirmative Action, Gender Equity, and Americans With Disability Act (for the record, I lobbied for all those laws in my many past years of social activism). Therefore, as liberals they would be lobbying for the rights of Palestinians who are the real under dogs in this conflict.
The Israeli apologists on this thread have all said liberalism should be on the side of Israel in this conflict.
How so? Israel isn't the under dog. On the contrary they are the aggressors and have been since Day One (link to Einstein). They have practiced every manner of injustice to Palestinians (links to Israeli activists). They have used every manner of subterfuge in order to disguise their schemes (links to Ostrovsky & Beit-Hallahmi).
In each instance I have used exclusively Jewish sources to back up my claims and to buttress my arguments. Not one source can be said to be ''antisemitic'' so that this often misused card fails in this dispute. There are hundreds more videos and links all throughout the Internet than can be used just as easily in order to defeat the initial argument made by the OP. Instead of presenting evidence in the vain attempt to defend the OP, the excitable and angry Israeli apologists have resorted to emotional arguments, name calling, and personal attacks. They completely disregard the interests of Palestinians and use precisely the same arguments used by the KKK to defend segregation in the South. How can any true ''liberal'' make such vain and indefensible arguments?
No, the OP and the Israeli apologists have not made any valid claim that there is any liberal case for Israel. Instead, their arguments have supported the right wing neocon case. Therefore, their arguments have been an utter FAIL.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=374029&mesg_id=374514USA_1 (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-03-11 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #237
246. "feebleminded" was your term, not mine
Such hate filled diatribes and attempts to lessen people's intelligence and worth is the same tactics used by Nazis and KKK. Israel's apologists on this forum are treading on highly risky grounds when you resort to these degrading tactics. The idea that one is the superior of others and are entitled to greater property or land rights is what the Nazis called Lebensraum. This is precisely the same demanded by racialist segregationists in the South during the 1860s. The world went to world to put a stop this in the 1940s just as we did in the 1860s. Sadly, there are people in this world, and quite obviously on this forum, who fail to take heed of the priceless lessons taught by history.
I urge you to renounce segregation and political repression. Henceforth watch the words you use and be very careful to avoid terms that were used by past haters who earned the scorn of the world for their evils.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=374029&mesg_id=374716USA_1 (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-06-11 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #259
262. ''change the subject''
In fact that is precisely what your side of the aisle has done on this thread. Then you make projections which you believe make you look like you've won the debate. You have my permission to believe that if you wish.
Therefore, rather than allow you propagandists the privilege of directing the exchange at your whim, I'm sticking with the original theme of this thread. That theme is the ludicrous idea that there is some liberal case for Israel. I say there is not.
My challenge to you is prove your case. The burden of proof is yours since that is the theme of the thread. I have clearly proven there isn't any such scenario and have successfully refuted every claim made by Israeli apologists. Let's see what you got ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=124&topic_id=374029&mesg_id=375192Seven violations of the
same rule.
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